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pointedeflèche 15th August 2007 01:04

Lt. Vance P. Ludwig, 56th FG, 1 Dec. 1943, Belgium
 
Hello,

Has anybody got information as to where 1st Lt. Vance P. Ludwig and his P-47 fell to earth on December 1st 1943? Was it near the city of Leuven (Louvain) Belgium?

1st Lt. Vance P. Ludwig
KIA December 1st 1943
56th Fighter Group/ 63rd Fighter Squadron
Ramrod 344 Solingen, Germany
P-47 D-5, s/n 42-8607, UN-K
MACR 1276
Cause: German fighters near St. Trond, Belgium
Buried: Arlington National Cemetery

Regards,
Dirk

montana 15th August 2007 07:44

Re: Lt. Vance P. Ludwig, 56th FG, 1 Dec. 1943, Belgium
 
Hi Dirk,

The aircraft of 1st Lt Vance P. Ludwig crashed 1 km S.E. of Merdorp near Ambresin at 12.45 h.

Rgds

pointedeflèche 15th August 2007 20:07

Re: Lt. Vance P. Ludwig, 56th FG, 1 Dec. 1943, Belgium
 
Hi Régis,

Many thanks for your help!

It appears that Major Egon Mayer of Jagdgeschwader 2 claimed four P-47’s that day: one in the Huy-Gembloux area (12.50), one in the Liege area (12.50), one in the Gembloux area (12.53) and finally one in the Leuven area (Louvain area) (12.53).

Another P-47 of the 56th FG/ 62nd FS was lost that day, namely P-47 D-6 s/n 42-74631. Its pilot 2/Lt. Harry M. Pruden Jr. got killed in action. Cause: enemy fighters near Cologne.

Do you happen to know whether s/n 42-74631 fell in Germany or Belgium? Are there any other P-47’s known to have crashed in Belgium that day?

Regards,
Dirk

Alex Smart 15th August 2007 22:15

Re: Lt. Vance P. Ludwig, 56th FG, 1 Dec. 1943, Belgium
 
Hi,
Pruden's P47 42-74631 last contact was at 13.10 by Capt Dauohin aprox 15 miles west of Cologne. Believed that he came down in the border area.MACR 1277.
Alex

Alain57 16th August 2007 13:39

Re: Lt. Vance P. Ludwig, 56th FG, 1 Dec. 1943, Belgium
 
Hi Dirk ,

Perhaps this can help you further :

01/12/1943
Etikhove
P-47D-5-RE
Ofw Otto Schneider 6./JG 6
42-74631 56FG-62FS
Halesworth
2nd Lt Ruden Jr Harry M ( KIA )
MACR 1277

Greetings
Alain

Steve49 16th August 2007 13:52

Re: Lt. Vance P. Ludwig, 56th FG, 1 Dec. 1943, Belgium
 
According to 'Losses of the 8th and 9th Air Forces' five P47's were lost during the day.

42-6211 (1st Lt C.L. Brown-61FS/56FG) -Force-landed at Bavegem, 7 miles SE of Ghent. Pilot POW.
42-8607 (1st Lt V.P. Ludwig-63FS/56FG) -Crashed near St Trond airfield. Pilot killed.
42-74631 (2nd Lt H.M. Pruden Jr-62FS/56FG) -Lost German/Belgium border. Pilot killed.
42-8006 (1st Lt J.C. Hull-358FS/355FG) -Crashed near Sterreken. Pilot killed.
42-22545 (1st Lt J.M. Williamson-357FS/355FG) -Crashed near Gelsdorf, Germany. Pilot POW.

Another three P.47's (one each 56, 78 and 353 FG's) made force-landings in the UK.

Regards,

Steve

pointedeflèche 17th August 2007 22:58

Re: Lt. Vance P. Ludwig, 56th FG, 1 Dec. 1943, Belgium
 
Alex, Alain, Steve,

Thank you very much for the info on the other P-47's losses that day.

Regards,
Dirk

Alain57 20th August 2007 08:33

Re: Lt. Vance P. Ludwig, 56th FG, 1 Dec. 1943, Belgium
 
Hello Dirk ,

Lt Vance was buried in grave nr 360 at the allied cemetery on the airfield of St-Truiden by the Germans.

Greets
Alain

Michael Patterson 16th June 2008 23:42

Re: Lt. Vance P. Ludwig, 56th FG, 1 Dec. 1943, Belgium
 
LUDWIG, VANCE P 1LT USAAF, 8TH AF 63 FTR SQ, 56 FTR CP WWII AC DATE OF BIRTH: 04/08/1916 DATE OF DEATH: 12/01/1943 BURIED AT: SECTION 34 SITE 1206 ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY

Regards to all, Michael Patterson
Webmaster, Arlington National Cemetery Website
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net

mdejong 7th August 2010 12:22

Re: Lt. Vance P. Ludwig, 56th FG, 1 Dec. 1943, Belgium
 
HI,

Any idea where exactly (which town/city) Pruden of 56th FG chrashed?

42-74631 (2nd Lt H.M. Pruden Jr-62FS/56FG) -Lost German/Belgium border. Pilot killed.


Thanks.

Martin


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