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Old 30th April 2010, 16:18
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Re: "The Straightening Bananas"

As authors, and I know that several of the participants in this discussion by historical texts, I am aware of the independence of the author. Often, various authors (without pointing personnel) are in relation to their own work which is very powerful belief that they are the best, exceptional, and that other's can not (or are even stupid). Targeted generalizes, again without any direct attacks.

When I wrote in 2008 a question about the Luftwaffe losses over the Polish, it interested me as much data (personal loss, and equipment), published in the 60's have been adjusted, corrected. It turned out that these data from around 50 years are still "current and valid" in this part of the story does not have progress!
One of the people writing about the Luftwaffe is Marius Emmerling, but may also be, and others, and conduct some research. A lot written about the Luftwaffe over the Polish example, Jerzy B. Cynk, which is contemptuous of Marius Emmerling. Accusing him of various inaccuracies, fantasies, etc.


Quote:
Emmerling: “Mister, this is wonderful Cynk gave us some statistical data in his book he better hadn`t published. But concerning the Luftwaffe it is completely useless. Most of the data is pure science fiction”.
By contrast, cited Marius Emmerling evades responsibility to correct, improve those, according to him, completely useless data from work J.B. Cynk (and Cynk took them from the summary reports Lufftwaffe).

Picking up a book Marius Emmerlinga notice, that the author in his works he creates his own myths, gives an untruth, and perhaps even deliberately resorts to manipulation of the facts?


Strong to justify this complaint. So to work.

In the case of the first book Marius Emmerlinga, except in 2002, wrote him a long letter pointing out the various bugs, that I noticed in the book of 2002 (vol I Jagdflieger). I understand that he need not respond to my letter.

When I read the second book (Vol. II, Kampfflieger, p. V) that until recently Polish historians write about Warsaw as a city open in September 1939, that such a statement gives rise to my astonishment. I know a number of Polish papers, documents, reports. I do not know any Polish publications (eg authors: Drozdowski, Grzelak, Lipiński, Porwit, Rómmel, Tomaszewski), where is the "Warsaw - Polish capital - was opened city in September 1939." An open city, as I remember, was in Paris in June 1940.

Emmerling (vol II, p. V) "Therefore, the bombing of Warsaw in 1939, is for the Polish terrorist bombing "open city", that is, for the most civil, and for the Germans were preparing to storm the heavily defended" fortress ".

I did not know, again, that Warsaw in September 1939 was declared an open city. Furthermore, it had its own active air defense (only reduced amount of A/A batteries since 7 IX 39) from 1 to 28 September.

According Emmerlinga concept presented in this book attacks on Warsaw in September 1939 have not been any terrorist raids! Case of German air attacks on Warsaw terrorist act by the mere invention of Emmerling Polish historians (this is a Polish science-fiction and mitomania). Poles as invent themselves, while the German papers have not confirmed.

Emmerling (vol II, p. V): "In Poland, but also multi-duplication of the bombardment of propaganda" for civil purposes, "including" women, old people and children " by A. Kurowski, J. Pawlak, J. B. Cynk and other Polish, and foreign authors, no one has a detailed examination of the operations carried out by Kampfflieger or even verification of published theses (...) ".

He continues, "I admit frankly that I felt a kind of "disappointment" when after having several conversations with the German pilots who formed the crew of aircraft came upon one that would answer this, as the so-called bombs thrown. "Civilian purpose and what kind of feelings he was accompanied. Former officers of the Luftwaffe (in this example, the commander of squadrons) to questions of this type respond to the express indignation. In addition, in the German archives found no documents, in which she would be talking about the need for bomb attacks on civilian targets "(Emmerling, vol II, p. IV).


Next Emmerling: "Luftwaffe air attacks on Warsaw, were used to support the action of ground troops. Despite the many painful and unnecessary civilian casualties, we should not forget that, in light of the international law of war (certainly this case) was the reason for the Germans. "

These statements contradict the German orders of 22 September 1939 issued by Wolfrma Freiherr von Richthofen on 22 September 1939 "Luftangriffe der Planung auf Warschau".
Richthofen writes, inter alia, in section "5 Beantrage dringend letzte Möglichkeit von Brand-und groß angelegten Terrorangriffen als Versuch auszunutzen (...) ".

The term "von Brand-und Terrorangriffen" means the fire and terrorist attack done from the air (as I understand it in German).

Germany in those days, were preparing to assault on Warsaw. Before the German artillery and aircraft had to break the spirit of resistance of defenders. Germany smoothly and professionally introduced this plan into action then, especially 24 and 25 September, which was used on a large scale terrorist artillery fire and air.


In particular, the city suffered heavy losses and civilians Sept. 25, 1939 on this day as a result of an all-day air attack of the German city burned on many points, knocked down hundreds of buildings, loss of dead among the civilian population could reach about 10,000 civilians and tens of thousands wounded. Strongly affected the city center - heavily damaged.

Emmerling except that, intentionally or not, introduces the Polish reader confusion, falsifying history. For example, the following passage: '(...) That in the light of international law of war (certainly this case) was the reason the Germans " (Vol II, p. V).

This finding demonstrates the serious gaps in knowledge of the author. Under international law - the Hague Rules of 1923, Article 23 - there is a clearly written that: it is prohibited to air bombardment to terrorize civilian populations, destroying or damaging private property not having a military character, and to inflict wounds niekombatantom.

In Germany September 24-25 just quite consciously, systematically attacked the town with heavy artillery and aviation, as well as the objective of selecting a non-military purposes, including the main focus of these attacks was directed at the center of the city center - or civilians. At that time, Polish troops occupied positions on the outskirts of Warsaw, and the civilians were inside. In this case, it was a will to resist the destruction of the besieged, as the Germans did very well, with minimal losses.

In the case of German attack (including terrorism) in Warsaw is known about losses caused by the siege in September 1939, the loss of civilian deaths, an estimate of around 20-25.000 killed, tens of thousands wounded. The biggest losses among civilians caused the attack on Sept. 25, when it killed up to 10,000 civilians, tens of thousands were injured. The Polish descriptions, memories, documents, and that day is described as the most tragic, most dreadful - hell).

In the case of material loss of the city, they look like this:
"Warsaw was before 1 September 1939 - 18,495 buildings, of which the defense has not damaged any more - in 2645 (14.3 percent). Buildings damaged (from light to severe) was 13,847 (74.86 per cent.) Fully buildings were destroyed in 2007 (10.85 percent). Very serious loss and damage suffered heart of the city...".

There are several hundreds of photos of destroyed civilian buildings such as on Nowy Świat, Świętokrzyska. Distribution of damage in the urban area, especially in the center of Warsaw shows that the Luftwaffe pilots were involved in the deliberate killing of civilians from the air. They had done the orders of their commanders.



I understand that someone may not like much that I, as a Pole, I dare to question the truthfulness and sincerity of the German airmen and documents drawn up by the administration of the Third Reich, to which the person arrived Marius Emmerling.

I can not help it, the facts are such, and not others, and attempt to hide or twist the story by Marius Emmerlinga is amusing, but naive.
Germany, Sept. 25 attack on Warsaw, started the air war on terror. And these are inconvenient facts, carefully avoided by Marius Emmerlinga. But what for? I do not know?


Conclusions

1st The author is entitled to rely on the information on the one hand and write on the basis of the documents, the relationship of one party (eg books Emmerling).


2nd The author is entitled to take the opposite party as the source of fantasies, and making up nonsense, and what they write for stupidity. For example, such views expressed in relation to Emmerling J. B. Cynk, J. Pawlak and other Polish authors.


3rd The author has the right to believe that only he just writes the truth only on the basis of the documents on the one hand, and the other authors fantasize, and their documents, relationships are just nonsense.


4th The author has the right to stretching the facts to their own vision (such as the Luftwaffe over the Polish vol II).

With this approach, the author has no right to claim that someone finds his style as an impartial and objective. There is also the right to expect that sooner or later someone was caught by "the straightening bananas."

Well, and then we meet in this forum and so you are discussing.


Proposes to close this discussion, which carries a total of nowhere. Too bad for her time.

I think the critical point has been discussed in some way (as wanted Denes and John). These are not only my attention to the inaccuracies that I found in the books M. Emmerlinga. I will not be edited his books to him or for him sitting in the archive.


Sincerely,

Miroslaw Wawrzyński
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