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Originally Posted by Roger Gaemperle
Hello,
Based on the ULTRA reports that you provided I did a further search for information and ended up with more questions than answers:
Regards,
Roger
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1) Remi you stated "Ausb. III./KG51": based on the scan of the corresponding ULTRA report that Nick posted, I don't see the reason why you think it was the Ausb.(ildung) Staffel. That leads me to the 2) question:
I'll leave question 1) to Remi.
2) In the ULTRA report, what does KADOP and R/T Staffel mean? R/T is probably radio telegraphy? Was the (Night) III./KG 51 the Ergänzungsstaffel(Nacht)/SKG 10 (see also question 5)?
KADOP is German code —
read the ULTRA article on my website.
KABEK = KG; KABUS = I./KG; KADIK = II./KG; KADOP = III./KG; KAFAN = IV./KG
KEBAD = 1./KG; KEBUT = 2./KG; KEDAC = 3./KG KEDNI = 4./KG; KEFUO = 5./KG; KEGIA = 6./KG; KEKOD = 7./KG; KELAP = 8./KG; KELOA = 9./KG
R/T in this context = Replacement./Training, i.e. «Ergänzung»
3) Nick, would it be possible to post a scan of the first ULTRA report that mentioned W.Nr. 160986? Does this report specifically say Erst. SKG 10?
No, I haven't got it.
4) I tried to find the Ergänzungsstaffel SKG 10 at
www.ww2.dk and found two different units with overlapping time (does this make sense?):
http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/schlacht/bergskg10.html
5) Is Ausb.III./KG 51 and Ergänzungsstaffel(Nacht)/SKG 10 one and the same unit?
I don't if there was ever such a thing as "Ausb.III./KG 51."
However, I./SKG 10 became III./KG 51 in June 1944, all the elements of the one were renamed as elements of the other.
> If so, it is interesting to note that in October 1944 4 Fw 190 G-3 left the unit. They are indicated as 'moved to other units'.
It always says that when a unit is redesignated — officially it ceases to exist and a new one is created, even if nothing changed but the name.
> Does somebody know what the source for the Bestandesmeldungen at
www.ww2.dk are and how reliable they are?
They are all at the Bundesarchiv-Miltärarchiv in Freiburg. They are as reliable as any other official material from the time, i.e. they reflect the figures that were reported at a particular date and time. A day (or an hour) earlier or later the figures might change; a mistake might be made by whoever made the report.