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Old 2nd August 2010, 22:25
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Re: 8./JG1 - Uff. Helmut Johanning -

Thanks Leo.

But it is in conflict with this information I got on a forum.

Uffz. Helmut Johanning (WND) seemed to have crash-landed near Mol with its Bf 109 G-6 (damaged at 75%).


Both Johanning and Miksch flew in 8./JG1 and were according to Prien shot down in the Nijmegen area, which I personally doubt is true.

I have a wartime document (a letter to family of Miksch) from Staffelkapitaen Overhagen stating that he was found in the Albertcanal near St. Trond.

I am looking for more information regarding the loss of Miksch especially the pilot which shot down Miksch. I think that information about Johanning can lead me more in the direction.

I have some reasons to believe the 8./JG1 came in combat with elements of USAAF 56th FG near St. Trond, which claimed a tot of 4 german victims on 1st december 1943...

1. Vance Ludwig of 56th FG crashed in Merdop/AMbreson after an engagement with german fighters (2 or 3 FW 109's) near St. Trond. So elements of 56th FG were around St. Trond;
2. Johanning was, as I assume, a wingman (they flew togehter) of Miksch and Johanning crashed near Mol, so not far away from St. Trond and thats very close to the Albert Canal (were Miksch was found);
3. Lt. Foster of 56th FG claimed a FW 190 near the village of Beverloo, and that is also close to the Albertcanal / Mol.
4. On 1st. december 1943 there were 3 Bf 109 claims of 56th FG (Chistensen, Mudge and Johnson). Fred Christensen destroyed a Me109 and Ralph Johnson had a damaged Me109 in the area of South East of Roermond, which is not far away from the battle area. That could be a match with the losses of Miksch and Johanning. Mudge reported that they had an engagement with 7 Bf 109's.

Therefore I believe either Fred Christensen of Ralph Johnson shot down Miksch.

Any opinions regarding my theory, would be very appreciated....I am intensively researching the loss of this pilot ans especially I would like to know which allied fighter downed him.

Martin





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