[Johannes]

Hi Guys

Thankyou for the information. Claims from both conflicts, and especailly those how made ace status are extremely rare, I can think of only three others Theo Osterkamp(1892-1975) twenty-nine in WW1 and two in WW2, Erich Mix(1898-1971) two in WW1 and four in WW2, and Alfred Lindenberger(1897-????) 10 in WW1(plus three as an air-gunner) and four in WW2. I wonder if Helms could be as an air-gunner? Lindenberger is still vague to me, I have all his claims, but no information between WW1 and 30th June 1944 when he becomes Kommandeur of II./Jg300. Osterkamp would be the oldest to claim at forty-eight, but Lindenberger the latest in 1944. Osterkamp made lots of unconfirmed claims in both wars, Mix several in WW2. Forward your personnal e.mail address to me if you desire my biographies.

Regards

Johannes