[Johannes]

Hi

Regarding Oskar-Heinz Bar

Sometime's his claims are spot on, I should think that about 30% of what a pilot thinks he has got are not crashing, this is not fraudulency, but just not applying the tough "did you see it crash rule", as with Marseille about three quarters of his claims actually crashed, could be there wingmen who were struggling to keep up, watch there leader's tails, and keep themselves alive. Usually if somebody is making false claims it's with help, be especially suspicious of two or more guys making huge claims together! Also units Jg2 in the west and Jg5 in the East were particulary bad, with Jg5 it seems they believe they were abandoned with inferior equipment, so seem to work it together especially 6./Jg5. But on the other foot Jg53, Jg26 and Jg27 at least seem honest, then again some Jg2 pilots seem honest Meimberg and seeger string to mind, Mayer i think also. Jg5 seem to get one claim 3 on average, they have been exposed only because they were the only unit in that area! Rudorffer and Nowotny achieved there deception within Jg54, probably using a combination of there rank/position and wingmen to do this, with Rudorffer this was Kurt Tangermann, yet Robert Weiss of Jg54 seems pretty honest , and the pattern of his claims would also suggest so. Also be subspicious of a Geschwader having one staffel or Gruppe that stands out above the others! Night-fighters seem pretty honest as a group, again the did you see it crash might have something to do with this.....they stayed usually within a certain area, the witness was the crew itself, so were not so busy, the bombers often burned....and at night! the attacks were not fleeting like the daytime komrades!, there munitions were devestating! Also during the day on average only one out of ever two heavy bombers actually fell, but there HSS system probably didn't help. Some pilots totals contain u/c, some are just those confirmed, some are based on the points system, some on actual number of confimations. When looking at Walter Dahl, who might very well have been a fraud, his total of confimations is way dow, especially in the West, he only confimed half the heavy bombers he is believed to have got!
But do not dispare many Allied aces were frauds Douglas Bader became a celebrity, even avoided paying tax over his war-time claims, yet was undoubtedly a very big fraud, and a liar, he managed to conceal his fraudulence for all his life, yet his konrades knew or suspected his deception, possible even the MOD knew, but he was good publicity!

Regards

Johannes

P.S Also hard-line party believers seem to be particulary prominant amongst the fraudsters!!!