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Old 14th March 2011, 21:21
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Re: Erich Hartmann - several questions

With regards to Marseille actually downing abouth three quartres of his claims, he was such an egoist like Wurmheller that I would have bet money on him making fraudulent claims like Wurmheller, but the fact is that i believe he thought that he had shot down 152 aircraft(plus six unconfirmed). Now Egon Mayer's claims stand up reasonable well for a Jg2 pilot, and he had huge problem's with Wurmheller, don't know what, but I guess he thought he was on the fiddle.
Regarding Bernd Barbas doing a Hartmann book, he's heavily engrossed in a Gerhard Barkhorn book at the moment(huge numbers of coloured photo's) Whereas Bernd thinks that Hartmann was honest, he seems to think that Barkhorn was the better man, or at lea\st he preferes him. Sad thing is that Barkhorn's medals have all been stolen!
Regarding other nations fraudsters.......the American's overclaimed, but not sure whether it's fraud or everybody shooting at everthing all the time. The "Ace"(or not) Douglas Bader was outragous in claiming, in fact it was his downfall, in his last combat he caught a staffel of Bf109's but instead of attacking, he dove away, only to be mistaken as an escaping 109 and shot dowen by his own side, yet he claimed three 109's........without engaging the enemy!!! He managed to carry off his deception for forty year, made fame and fortune from it as well!!!!
Also I wonder if Khaznov used Hartmann's old list or the Micro Film generated one to get his "80"?

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Johannes
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