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Old 25th April 2011, 13:43
Mirek Wawrzynski Mirek Wawrzynski is offline
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Re: Claims of 151. Wing on 6.10.41: 2 or 3 Ju 88?

Hi
Thanks for the list Mark, reading some materials about amount of Wing's succes I have met different figures.
The first is in Griffin's book, when he had wrote about 12 certian victories/destroyed enemy planes before 6.10.41 (which was paid by Russian 1000 rubles/ per destroyed planes, all 12 000 rubles).
Next ones were these 3 from 6.10., which total gives 12 plus 2 Ju 88 plus 1 Me 109 = 15 certian planes.

Second, when you read: The Royal Air Force 1939-1945. Vol. II, by D. Richards & H. St. G. Saunders, both written about: “No further casualties were suffered in later combats, and at the end of its five weeks' spell of operations the Wing was able to claim, for the loss of this single machine, sixteen enemy aircraft destroyed, four probably destroyed, and seven damaged”.
Sometimes I have met 15 certian victories as caunted in Griffin's book.

I think, that I have just found this two "missing" in Griffin:-)

Griffin (p. 50) had given for 17.09. four certain victories, in your list are 3.
Next is on 26.09. (p. 61): he is giving 3 confirmed as a certian and in your list are 2 certain, 1 next probably.

So he could probably had done a mistake (overcredited on 2 victories or you have undercredited for 2 victories)?

So when we reduce this 2 we will get 10 certian plus 3 next from 6.10. total will be: 13 certain destroyed planes plus 7 probables and 5 damaged, or 15 certian, 5 probables plus 5 damaged.

And on 6.10.41 pararell to Wings claims next 5-6 Ju 88s were credited for Soviet 72. SAP VVS NF.

Regards,
mirekw
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