[Gunther]

I met Krupinski and some other Luftwaffe veterans in the mid 80s. He was as approachable as Rall but seemed to have a subtle sense of humor; Rall had absorbed American humor learning to fly 104s at Luke AFB. Anyway, I asked K. about his gunnery training, and he said the first time he fired air to air was at an Anson over the Channel. He and his element leader "fired out" while the Anson motored away. The specifics are foggy but IIRC he had about 100 sorties before scoring his first victory.