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Old 5th November 2005, 03:46
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Re: Soviet P-63 pilot, escaping with He 111 w.V1(s)

Ruy
We may find it politically correct or not, justified or not, etc., but the term of Judeocommunism does exist. It is a fact that Jewes had a substantial participation or sympathies towards communism, not depending on their social position. People like Trocki, Hammer or Rosenbers are just too well known and those are only representatives. Sorry, but I find a comment that Mrs Applebaum is not objective because of her background I find just ridiculous. Oh, and before more comments appear, we are fully awared of Mr Arthur Rubinstein's origin and we are fully awared of his famous concerto.

Mazilla
You are oversimplifying the problem and also directing it on wrong tracks. My point was and is only directed towards the approach of some Russians, definetelly more than those 30 idiots, as you rightly call them, toward their own history. Soviet system, which was to some degree a continuation of previous tzarist one, was extremally opressive towards Russians themselves. It was so wild and inhumane, that it is hard to compare it with anything. But Russians do not try to settle accounts, they try to excuse it. There were several Russian patriots, with whom I would not necessarilly find a common language, but who did a lot to either freed Russia or to change the approach to it. They are regarded traitors at best. There were several important figures in aviation, like Galitzine, Rozanoff or Sikorski, who are remembered by Britons, French or Americans but not Russians. Why? Because they were not members of VKP(b)?
By the way, author of Gu-ga (a history of a youth who went into a penal battalion - recommended) was a Red Army veteran, a Jew and passed away in Israel. Would you consider him a traitor, a man writing because of fashion or a liar? Would you say, that Golubyev, a Russian, was a liar who did such comments because they were in fashion?
Perhaps Western or Polish view of Russia and Soviet Union is distorted, definetelly it is exagerrated, but I have no doubt that it is still closer to the truth.
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