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Johannes

Using Dr Prein JFV Vol 9/III and the internet T Woods files - I have the following

12th July 1942 1422 hrs, 1423 hrs and 1428 hrs.
12.07.42 Ltn. Hans-Joachim Bahr: 8 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - 14.22 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
12.07.42 Fw. Heinz Beyer: 12 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - 14.23 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
12.07.42 Uffz. Schrader: 1 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - 14.28 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B


6th August 1942 0856 hrs, 0906 hrs and 1102 hrs.
06.08.42 Uffz. Josef Kaiser: 4 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ S.E. Herzberg: at 1.500 m. 08.56 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr. 135 – ?B
06.08.42 Uffz. Josef Kaiser: 5 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ S.E. Herzberg: at 20-10 m. 09.06 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr. 136 – ?B
06.08.42 Uffz. Josef Kaiser: 6 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ S.W. Murmansk: at 400 m. 11.02 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr. 137 – ?B


10th August 1942 1843 hrs, 1847 hrs, 1850 hrs x2, and 1852 hrs.
10.08.42 Oblt. Hermann Segatz: 27 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ 20 854: at 800 m. 18.43 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 138 – ?B
10.08.42 Oblt. Hermann Segatz: 28 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ 20 854: at 500 m. 18.47 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 139 – ?B
10.08.42 Uffz. Jakob Norz: 2 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ 20 854: at 500 m. 18.48 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 140 – ?B
10.08.42 Uffz. Josef Kaiser: 7 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ 20 854: at 900 m. 18.50 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 141 – ?B
10.08.42 Uffz. Heinrich Bartels: 13 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ 20 854: at 500 m. 18.50 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 142 – ?B
10.08.42 Uffz. Josef Kaiser: 8 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ 20 854: at 700 m. 18.52 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 143 – ?B


13th August 1942 1505 hrs, 1506hrs x2 1515 hrs, and 1520 hrs.
13.08.42 Uffz. Heinrich Bartels: 17 8./JG 5 I-153 £ 30 784: at 3.500 m. 15.06 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 148 – ?B
13.08.42 Uffz. Josef Kaiser: 9 8./JG 5 I-153 £ 30 784: at 3.500 m. 15.06 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 149 – ?B
13.08.42 Uffz. Kurt Dylewski: 2 8./JG 5 I-153 £ 30 771: at 3.500 m. 15.06 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 150 – ?B
13.08.42 Uffz. Heinrich Bartels: 18 8./JG 5 Curtiss P-40 £ 30 783: at 3.500 m. 15.15 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 151 – ?B
13.08.42 Uffz. Heinrich Bartels: 19 8./JG 5 Curtiss P-40 £ 30 773: at 3.700 m. 15.20 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 152 – ?B


For the second lot I have;


3rd April 1942 1114hrs
03.04.42 Oblt. Hermann Segatz: 18 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - PQ 37 Ost/2085 11.14 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B

26th April 1942 0950hrs , and 0951 hrs.
26.04.42 Uffz. Heinrich Bartels: 3 (1st EF) 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - Ura Guba 09.50 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
26.04.42 Fw. Oskar Timm: 1 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - Ura Guba 09.51 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B

9th May 1942 1450 hrs, and 1451 hrs.
09.05.42 Fw. Heinz Beyer: 1 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - Murmaschi 14.50 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
09.05.42 Fw. Oskar Timm: 2 8./JG 5 MiG-3 £ - Murmaschi 14.51 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B

10th May 1942 1712 hrs, and 1835 hrs.
10.05.42 Uffz. Heinrich Bartels: 4 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - Motowki-Bucht 17.12 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
The 18.35 claim unknown?

17th May 1942 0912 hrs.
17.05.42 Fw. Heinz Beyer: 3 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - Wajda-Guba 09.12 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B

28th May 1942 1637 hrs.
28.05.42 Fw. Heinz Beyer: 4 8./JG 5 MiG-3 £ - 35 km SE Banak 06.37 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ? B
16.37 or 06.37?

2nd June 1942 1037 hrs, 1040 hrs, 1320 hrs, 1322 hrs, and 1323 hrs.
02.06.42 Ltn. Hans-Joachim Bahr: 3 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - E Motowski 10.37 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
02.06.42 Ltn. Hans-Joachim Bahr: 4 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - E Motowski 10.40 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
02.06.42 Oblt. Hermann Segatz: 19 8./JG 5 MiG-3 £ - Ura-Guba 13.20 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
02.06.42 Oblt. Hermann Segatz: 20 8./JG 5 MiG-3 £ - Ura-Guba 13.22 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
02.06.42 Fw. Heinz Beyer: 5 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - Ura-Guba 13.23 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B

14th June 1942 1715 hrs.
14.06.42 Oblt. Hermann Segatz: 21 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - Titowka 17.15 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B

15th June 1942 1140 hrs, 1141 hrs, and 1143 hrs.
15.06.42 Oblt. Hermann Segatz: 22 8./JG 5 MiG-3 £ - Wadja-Guba 11.40 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
15.06.42 Oblt. Hermann Segatz: 23 8./JG 5 MiG-3 £ - Wadja-Guba 11.41 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
15.06.42 Fw. Heinz Beyer: 7 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - Liza Bucht 11.43 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B

17th June 1942 0932 hrs, 0933 hrs, 0934 hrs, 0935hrs, and 0938 hrs( I think Hermann Segatz claimed one of these)
17.06.42 Oblt. Hermann Segatz: 24 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - W Schonguij 09.32 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
17.06.42 N.N. Ltn Hans-Joachim Bahr: 6 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - W Schonguij 09.33 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
17.06.42 Oblt. Hermann Segatz: 25 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - W Schonguij p.24 Murawski JG5 09.34 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
17.06.42 Ltn Hans-Joachim Bahr: 7 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - W Schonguij p.24 Murawski JG5 09.35 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
17.06.42 Uffz. Josef Kunz: 2 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - W Schonguij 09.38 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B

23rd June 1942 0815 hrs, and 0820 hrs,
23.06.42 Uffz. Rudolf Linz: 2 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - 08.15 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
23.06.42 Fw. Heinz Beyer: 8 8./JG 5 DB-3 £ - 08.20 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
This includes Linz - was there another? 6/JG5 claimed one at 08.15? ??

29th June 1942 0137 hrs, and 0142 hrs.
29.06.42 Fw. Heinz Beyer: 9 8./JG 5 I-61 £ - 01.37 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
29.06.42 Fw. Heinz Beyer: 10 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - 01.42 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B

7th July 1942 1450 hrs, and 1728 hrs.
07.07.42 Fw. Heinz Beyer: 11 8./JG 5 Curtiss P-40 £ - 14.50 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B
07.07.42 Uffz. Josef Kaiser: 3 8./JG 5 Hurricane £ - 17.28 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 9/III – ?B

As can bee seen there are only a few possivbilities.

Also in Eismeerjager vol 2 they have Linz making a claim 10 May 42 with 6/JG5, the JFV Series has one claim to an unknown pilot of II/JG5 on that day - a possibility?

Finally, I have 49 claims between the dates you mentioned, 2 more than you. The rest is a mystery to me and I cannot answer the training unit question.

Regards,

Craig...