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Old 11th October 2012, 00:13
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Re: 22 Aug 44 P-47 near Tours sur Marne (nr Athis)

Hello again

sorry to be boring about this subject but I thought there was an outside chance somebody would be interested in some new information which sort of rounds-off the discussion. This should be my last post on the subject.

I looked yesterday at British National Archives AIR40/2961 'Enemy airfield activity'. If you don't know this file it reports on (1) aerial recon photos of enemy airfields and what if any aircraft were observed (2) damage reports following raids on enemy airfields (I think it also references recon photos but can't remember now).

There were entries for ATHIS, EPERNAY-PLIVOT, CONDE-SUR-MARNE (ie.Vraux), and VILLENEUVE-VERTUS. All airfields relevant to this discussion about Jg 3 in August 1944 when two of its geschweder were based in the Chalons area.

No aircraft were observed at Athis and Epernay-Plivot on the 14th August. 23 'small' aircraft were observed at Villeneuve- Vertus on the 15th August and 11 'small' aircraft at Conde-sur-Marne (Vraux) on the 11th August. I think small generally means fighter aircraft. I assume that these were from Jg 3.

As for "Chateau St Georges" where Stab elements of Jg 3 were reported by Ultra Intelligence appreciations - it is located just outside the village of Champigneul-Champagne which is close to Pocancy and Villeneuve-Vertus.

I've produced a simple Googlemap showing the locations of all the above. Here's the link https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&mid=1349902138 which I hope works.

Larry, in the unlikely event of you being unaware of AIR40/2961, it might be useful for your work because most of the file is about airfields in Germany. Let me know by private email if there are any dates you're interested in and I can do some jpeg copies for you next time I'm at the archives.

All the best

Chris

PS. the Vraux museum people confirm there was an airstrip just north of Bisseuil but they dont think it was used much if at all by the Luftwaffe (but they did send me a picture of a Marauder parked there in 1944). Apparently it was a WW1 airfield and used as a racetrack between the wars. There's a historian in Bisseuil who they've suggested I contact for more information. I shall try to get to see him next time I'm in the area.
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