[Jochen Prien]

Dear ChrisS,

thank you for your input. I'm afraid however that your approach does not help to solve the problem as the emblems in question seen on images # 1 and 2 can be seen on a/c of 3./JG 52 in Rissia in May/June 1942 ( # 3 ) and on an a/c of 1./JG 52 in the Netherlands in mid 1941 ( # 2 ). Therefore it seems that the emblem you referred to as the "former emblem of 3./JG 52" is something rather different, albeit an unsolved issue of its own.

The problem I'm facing is that for the period between mid 1941 and summer 1942, when I./JG 52 was re-equipped with the Bf 109 G-2, there are five different emblems to be seen on the Bf 109 F-2s and F-4s, one being the Gruppe badge and another the former Gruppe badge which had become the Staffel badge of 2./JG 52 as per mid 1941, which are identified beyond reasonable doubt.

The same - to me - applies to the "shot through umbrella" emblem of 3./JG 52 which can be seen between autumn 1941 and May 1942 on at least eight Bf 109 F-2s and F-4s ( see JFV 12/II to come ).

This leaves us with two emblems which are pending a definitive allocation - the eagle without a shield we're dealing with in this thread and the eagle on a shield that you referred to.

Regards

Jochen Prien

P.S.: Thanks of course too to all the other contributors to this thread and to Larry for spending his precious time to solve my problems.