Thread: II./JG 101
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Old 18th September 2013, 22:47
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Re: II./JG 101

First of all, thanks Matti (what would we do without you? )
8./JG 101 did exist, I have now no doubt at all!!

Franck
I never thought about Holm's pages (which I have now looked at). He may well be correct, I don't know, but what speaks against his version are the units bases and commanding dates.

4./JG 101 was quite correctly added to the first Gruppe at Bad Wörrishofen in July 1944. That is logical since the Stab had already been transferred there in June and 2./JG 101 followed in October.

The problem you have when reading Carlsen/Meyer is that they don't bother to give JG 112 a "going over", they combine JG 112 and II./JG 101 on the same page (page 28 in their Band II) and we are left without a clue when the exact unit change took place. Holm is better so checking his site we know that JG 112 only lived for three months and disappeared on 15.10.1944

Now JG 112 and its three Staffeln were all based at Landau when they reformed as II./JG 101. So was 5.-7./JG 101! (Holm seems confused saying II./JG 101 was formed at Götzendorf, but was based at Landau. Makes no sense at all. Carlsen/Meyer speculate that JG 112 was formed one month ahead of what Holm states and was based at Götzendorf June-July 1944)

Logic (but admittedly logic was not always a strong point in Germany during the Third Reich period) then says if
4./JG 101 was formed in July 1944 with a commander named Oblt Horst Ballhause (11.7.1944 to 19.8.1944) that same unit cannot have been formed on 15.10.1944 from 1./JG 112.

All three Staffeln of JG 112 were based at Landau and all three II./JG 101 Staffeln were also based at Landau.

To me, logic would be to create a new Staffel (4./JG 101) at Bad Wörrishofen from "scratch" and let all three Staffeln from JG 112 form 5.-7. JG 101. That is what I would have done. Much more smooth and certainly a lot less effort for both units in question.

So over to anyone who has better/more information than I can provide.

Cheers
Stig
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