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Old 22nd January 2006, 01:26
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Re: Huge Luftwaffe Victories over USAAF?

Denes - you have proved that I can not count. You are correct - it is 14 1st FG P-38's downed that day.

I do not have the physical MARC's except for the 355th and quite a few from the 4th. The MARC you need for 43-28732 is No. 5762. It is possible that you could get details for this MARC and the rest on that list from USAF HRC at Maxwell Field, Alabama.

As to whether or not, that total number of 21 Missing Aircrew Reports represents all of the lost P-38's of the 82nd and the 1st, the answer is not necessarily. Possibilities for NOT preparing a MARC are usually because the subject is not MISSING - an example could be going down in the Med on the way back - a circumstance in which the aircraft was truly destroyed but the location of the pilot was not behind enemy lines.

I have several examples for the 355th in which an a/c was lost FG but serial numbers were found in Accident reports (like a mid air collision) or a mid channel ditching when no ememy fire was probable cause.

There was no MARC prepared for my father's Mustang when he was shot down by Flak on August 18, 1944 because he was rescued by Priest in another Mustang - hence not "Missing". The lost Mustang was recorded as a battle loss for the 355th FG.

The MARC to the best of my knowledge represents the record of choice for Combat losses of the USAAF.

Still that leaves you with a 4 ship gap and it would be unusual to say the least to have that many 'accidents' versus destroyed or missing by enemy action.

Still it is possible that MARC's were not done
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