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Old 11th February 2014, 15:53
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Re: German overclaims in the East. Hartmann and others...

Folks,

and finally: 2Lt. Tσth Lajos, Hungarian Bf 109G ace's soviet claims over Hungary and Austria in 1944-1945:

Claim No., Date .....Reported AC ...Real victim

14 ….. 13.11.44. Yak-9 ………......Unsure about this, several 5 VA Yak- options
15 ….. 16.11.44. IL-2 ………........Unsure about this, having not enough records for 17 VA for that early date.
16 ….. 05.12.45. Yak-9 ……….....Unsure about this
17 ….. 09.12.44. Yak-9 ……….....Unsure, three 17 VA, 288 IAD Yak options.
18 ….. 04.01.45. La-5 ……….......La-5FN, 17 VA, 194 IAD, 530 IAP, - see details in prev. comments.
19 ….. 21.01.45. Yak-9 ………......Unsure, - perhaps Yak-9D, S/N: 19166076
20 ….. 23.01.45. La-5 ……….......La-5F, S/N: 39215033, engine: 65033203, 17 VA, 295 IAD, 164 IAP, ml.l-t Grehovodov (KIA)
21 ….. 23.01.45. La-5 ……….......La-5, 17 VA, 295 IAD, 31 IAP, ml.l-t Abrarov (KIA)
22 ….. 09.03.45. La-7 ……….......Overclaim, found no such soviet loss, probably just damaged. (La-7, ~5 VA, 14 GvIAD, 179 GvIAP)
23 ….. 20.03.45. Yak-9 ………......Found no such permanent loss, probably damaged.
24 ….. 13.04.45. La-7 ……….......La-7, S/N: 45211044, engine: 82132741, tactical white '44', 5 VA, 14 GvIAD, 177 GvIAP, ml.l-t Petr Fedorovich Ivanchenko (KIA) at Austria, Vienna-N, -NW
25 ….. 14.04.45. IL-2 ……….......IL-2m3, S/N: 18872120, engine: 2514148, 17 VA, 136 ShAD, 210 ShAP, l-t Simanskii - Ionin crew (KIA) at Austria, Stelcendorf(?)-N, 1 km
26 ….. 14.04.45. IL-2 ……….......IL-2m3, S/N: 1880702, engine: 259357, 17 VA, 306 ShAD, 951 ShAP, crew at Austria, Brodersdorf-NW, 500 m, ml.l-t Satanovskii - Plankin crew

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