[Marius]

The "second formation" seems to have been seen by Olt. Berthold Jung from 5./JG 77. In a wartime account he stated about 16 bombers (12 + 4). This couldn`t have been the Helgoland formations.
Otherwise this strenght of bombers is confirmed by Luftlagebericht Nr.119 - 22 aircraft flying east (6 of them above ground at Norden to Wangerooge).

What I do not understand is the changed time of Jung`s unconfirmed victory. In JFV Teil 2 (p.474) 14.35 hours, in the older Geschichte des Jagdgeschwaders 77 Teil 1 & Teil 4 14.50 hours. 15 minutes is a lot of time.
I mean 14.50 hours is more likely. So the older book about the JG 77 has indeed its merits.

A question especially to our British readers. Where were published the losses of OTU/OCU aircraft on this 18.12.1939?

Regards,