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Old 13th February 2014, 12:24
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Re: German overclaims in the East. Hartmann and others...

Folks,

Few samples of small, but 100% accuracy claims over Hungary during the long-range, Yugoslav partisan supply-drop missions in 1944:

Fw. Eckart Ulmer's (8./NJG 6) two, 100% victories:

Date ........Reported AC......Real victim:
09/10.08.44. Mitchell ……….....B-25C-15-NA, S/N: 42-32474, tactical: red '12', 5 GvAD DD, 14 GvAP DD, gv.k-n Karakozov crew, 6 KIA. Crashed in a forest between Kismányok and Nagymányok, Hungary.

09/10.08.44. Mitchell ……….....B-25D-30-NC, S/N: 43-3507, tactical: red '4', 5 GvAD DD, 14 GvAP DD, gv.l-t Pchelov crew, 5 KIA. Crashed in a house in Akasztó, Hungary. 1 resident also killed.

Ofw. Josef Federle (8./NJG 6) 100% victory:
Date ........Reported AC......Real victim:
10/11.08.45. Mitchell ……….....B-25D-20-NC, S/N: 41-30612, 5 GvAD DD, 22 GvAP DD, tactical: red '45', gv.p.p-k Galinski crew, 6 KIA/POW/MIA. Crashed on the market place of Martonos, Hungary. (now: Serbia)

...and an overclaim, - no matter what he reported:
Oblt. Wilhelm Johnen's (8./NJG6 Me 110G-4) overclaim:

Date ........Reported AC......Real victim:
10/11.08.44. Mitchell ……….....Overclaim, only damaged near Szolnok, Hungary. 337 AP DD B-25 returned with 75 hits with gv.l-t Fedorov's crew onboard. (See part of long mission-report below. Note it says: Do 217!)

Oblt. Wilhelm Johnen's (8./NJG6 Me 110G-4) 100% victory:

Date ........Reported AC......Real victim:
15/16.08.44. Mitchell ……….....B-25C-15-NA, S/N: 42-32523, 5 GvAD DD, 337 AP DD, tactical: red '71', gv.k-n Kravtsov crew, 5 MIA at Márkusfalva, Hungary. (now: Croatia)

Etc, etc, etc, etc....

Gabor

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