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Old 18th February 2014, 00:08
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Re: German overclaims in the East. Hartmann and others...

Folks,

5./JG 52 ace, Friedrich Haas' list for Hungary in 1944:

16/10/1944 ......... Jak-11 -probably Yak-9T(M), S/N: 2715334, engine: 425-49, 5 VA, 331 IAD, 179 IAP, l-t. Dmitrii Nikolaevich Maximenkov (KIA-KIFA) - returned with combat damages and crashed on Torda/Turda airfield "при возвращении с БЗ был ранен, потерял сознание и разбился на 3-м заходе. катастрофа над аэр. Турда"
18/10/1944 ......... Jak-11 -Found no such permanent loss, probably just damaged. (3 Yak losses few hrs. later, - not his opponents!)
19/10/1944 ......... LaGG-5 Perhaps 5 VA, 14 GvIAD, 178 GvIAP La-5FN, S/N: 39212311, gv.capt. Semenov (MIA)
30/10/1944 ......... LaGG-5 Found no such permanent loss, probably just damaged.
01/11/1944 ......... Jak-9 - Found no such permanent loss, probably just damaged (more damaged Yaks this day!)
23/11/1944 ......... Jak-9 - Yak-1B, S/N: 32161, engine: 355-1983, tactical '1', 5 VA, 331 IAD, 122 IAP, ml.l-t Titov. Returned from dogfight, plane broke.
23/11/1944 ......... Il-2mH. Probably IL-2m3, 5 VA, 12 GvShAD, 187 GvShAP, S/N: 12260, gv.ml.l-t Grilev (POW, later escaped)
05/12/1944 ......... Jak-9 - Found no such permanent loss, probably just damaged.
05/12/1944 ......... Il-2mH. Perhaps IL-2m3, 5 VA, 4 GvShAD, 90 GvShAP
11/12/1944 ......... Jak-9 - Found no such permanent loss, probably just damaged. Reported time is too early!
11/12/1944 ......... Jak-9 - Found no such permanent loss, probably just damaged. Reported time is too early!
20/12/1944 ......... Jak-9 - Lack of info, perhaps a Yak-1B of 5 VA, 331 IAD? Don't know.
20/12/1944 ......... Jak-9 - Found no such permanent loss, probably just damaged.
21/12/1944 ......... Jak-9 - Hard question. Perhaps a 17 VA, 288 IAD, 659 IAP Yak-9DD, S/N: 0115311, ml.l-t Kostin (WIA)
21/12/1944 ......... Jak-9 - Hard question. Perhaps a 17 VA, 288 IAD, 659 IAP Yak-9DD, S/N: 0115315, st.l-t Sosnikov returned on the 25th.

Gabor
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