[HGabor]

Folks,

Just some marginal data. On September 23, 1944 SG 2 Fw 190F pilots (Obstlt. Hans-Ulrich Rudel, Hptm. Karl Kennel, Uffz. Koppenhöfer) claimed 3 IL-2s in the Torda/Turda area. This day 5 VA, 7 GvShAD has lost 3 IL-2s indeed as follows:

5 VA, 130 GvShAP, IL-2, gv.ml.l-t Kravchenko
5 VA, 131 GvShAP, IL-2, gv.l-t Puhov
5 VA, 131 GvShAP, IL-2, gv.r-y Arkaev

Mechanical paper of 5 VA, 7 GvShAD (without crew lists) erased 7 IL-2s (as prev. days' losses) between October 1-15, 1944 to AAA (which, of course, -partially- could be dogfight as well):

IL-2m3, S/N: 10338
IL-2m3, S/N: 302787
IL-2m3, S/N: 302949
IL-2m3, S/N: 1873880, engine: 253297
IL-2m3, S/N: 11634, engine: 2510476
IL-2m3, S/N: 1877070
IL-2m3, S/N: 302765

No further info on matching crews, but chances are the 3 IL-2 losses listed above were among the 7 written-off serials of the 7 GvShAD.

I think reported SG 2 claims could be correct this time.

Gabor