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Old 20th February 2014, 19:12
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Re: German overclaims in the East. Hartmann and others...

Folks,

...and a "SUPER-OVERCLAIM", made by JG 51 Bf 109G pilots on soviet Boston bombers on September 22, 1944 - according to Tony Wood's claim-list:

Hptm. Joachim Brendel............27 491: at 2.000 m
Oblt. ?.................................27 455: at 600 m. 10.28
Ofw. Friedrich Simon..............27 449: at 400 m. 10.29
Ltn. Anton Hafner..................27 422: at 1.000 m. 10.29
Uffz. Mölders........................27 487: at 1.200 m. 10.30
Ofw. Josef Gäbl.....................27 485: at 1.200 m. 10.31

BUT: the 5 VA has lost only a single Boston this day!

Douglas A-20G-45-DO Boston, S/N: 43-21689, 5 VA, 218 BAD, 453 BAP, 1st squadron (probably: Red '5', since Mr. Malov told me this 2 years ago in 2012, but because he crashed at least 2 Bostons, it is not clear if all of his planes were actually red '5'. His other A-20G was red '5' at least in Hungary.), l-t Ivan Aleksandrovich Malov's crew (4 returned OK)

AC type is interesting. It says: А-20C-45до, not the typical 'А-20Ж' for the A-20G model. Serial is obvious, but some A-20G planes got A-20B or A-20C nose for better view as a field modification for recce. missions. Usually the 1st (red) Sq. of the group performed such missions, so maybe this A-20G had a modified, A-20C "greenhouse" nose???????

...and this plane still could crash-land on their airfield due to combat damages! Bostons were not so easy to shoot down. They frequently escaped even with 'horror' damages... So I have no idea who shot 43-21689 down. Pick your own choice :-))))))))

Gabor
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