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Old 23rd November 2014, 00:54
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Re: Crash locations of five Lancaster and Halifax losses 3-4 April 1943 Essen raid?

Hello,
This may be of use -
From Fiche 5971
4 Apr 43 - 2230-2330 - Short Stirling R-9327 - Near Obbekaer, 4km east of Ribe -110296-110301/110303,110331//110305-110324 - [ R9327 "OJ-M" 149 Sqdn - 4/5 Apr 43 ].
4 Apr 43 - 2308 - Avro Lancaster - Rosenfeld near Pretz - 110327/110332
4 Apr 43 - 2314 - Avro Manchester -R-1132 - Dobersdorfer Sea - 110327/110331 [ Not a Manchester or Lancaster. Would have been a Wellington Ic but numbers R1100-R1134 were not allocated. P1120 to P1139 were for Oxfords but cancelled ] ?
4 Apr 43 - 2325 - Avro Lancaster - W-4310 - Bordesholm -110326/110328/110331 - [ Hit by Kriegsmarine Flak - W4310 "UV-C Bar" 460 Sqdn - 4/5 Apr 43 ].
4 Apr 43 - 2335 - Halifax - Sarlhusen, South west of Neumuenster - 110331/110332/110338/110339
4 Apr 43 - 2345 - Lancaster - LD696 -Groszenaspe near Neumuenster - 110330/110333-110336 - [This must have been ED696 "WS-T" of 9 Sqdn - 4/5 Apr 43 ].


and
From Tony Wood's Claims files.

Night: 3-4. April 1943
R.A.F. Bomber Command: ESSEN
03.04.43 - Hptm. Herbert Lütje - 8./NJG 1 - Lancaster - 3 km. W. Winterswijk: 6.200 m. - 22.45 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.68 - [ ED334 "OL-R" of 83 Sqdn ].
03.04.43 - Hptm. Hans-Dieter Frank - 2./NJG 1 - Halifax - 5 km. S.E. Rhenen: 4.500 m. [W. Arnhem] - 22.45 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.108 - [ JB866 "EQ-T" of 78 Sqdn ].
03.04.43 - Uffz. Hans Baldischweiler - 12./NJG 1 - Halifax - 535 9C: 5.200 m. - 22.45 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.135
03.04.43 - Maj. Werner Streib - Stab I./NJG 1 - Halifax - 6231: 5.000 m. - 22.52 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.65
03.04.43 - Ltn. August Geiger - 7./NJG1 - Lancaster - 5 km. N. Gement: 6.000 m. - 23.00 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.71
03.04.43 - Maj. Werner Streib - Stab I./NJG 1 - Halifax - S.W. Vierlingsbeek: 5.200 m. - 23.00 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.16
03.04.43 - Oblt. Martin Bauer - 3./NJG 1 - Lancaster - 3 km. S.E. Bingtreu: 6.000 m. - 23.01 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.120
03.04.43 - Hptm. Hans-Dieter Frank - 2./NJG 1 - Lancaster - 4 km. N. Kleve: 6.200 m. - 23.02 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.109
03.04.43 - Oblt. Eckart-Wilhelm von Bonin - 6./NJG 1 - Halifax - 4 km. N.W. Nerenweert: 5.000 m. - 23.21 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.60 - [ JB845 "EY- " of 78 Sqdn ].
03.04.43 - Hptm. Hans-Dieter Frank - 2./NJG 1 - Stirling - 4375 See: 3.100 m. - 23.25 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.110
03.04.43 - Maj. Werner Streib - Stab I./NJG 1 - Halifax - 3 km. Pfalzberge: 4.500 m. - 23.30 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.67 - [ DT808 "LQ-V" of 405 Sqdn ].
03.04.43 - Hptm. Herbert Lütje - 8./NJG 1 - Halifax - 1 km. N. Alost: 5.500 m. - 23.37 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.69 - [ DT617 "VR-G" of 419 Sqdn ].
03.04.43 - Ltn. Schön - 3./NJG 1 - Halifax - Harlings-vliet: 4.800 m. - 23.44 - Film C. 2027/I VNE: ASM
03.04.43 - Uffz. Emil Heinzelmann - 8./NJG 1 - Halifax - Wapenvelt: 4.600 m. - 23.50 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.70
03.04.43 - Oblt. Eckart-Wilhelm von Bonin - 6./NJG 1 - Lancaster - 5-6 km. E. Opladen/Holl. 4.200 m. - 23.54 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.61- [ ED694 "WS-Y" of 9 Sqdn ].
04.04.43 - Maj. Helmut Lent - Stab IV./NJG 1 - Lancaster - 547 7E See: 9.500 m. - 00.24 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.115
04.04.43 - Oblt. Eberhard Gardiewski - 12./NJG 1 - Halifax - 443 6S: 4.000 m. - 00.47 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.136
04.04.43 - Ltn. Werner Speidel - 10./NJG 3 - Manchester - 04.32 - Film- C. 2031/I XII. Flg.Kps.

Those printed in Blue can be eliminated from the search thus.
The serial number printed in Red did not exist ?

From Fiche 5971

4 Apr 43 - 2308 - Avro Lancaster - Rosenfeld near Pretz - 110327/110332
4 Apr 43 - 2314 - Avro Manchester -R-1132 - Dobersdorfer Sea - 110327/110331.( see above ) ?
4 Apr 43 - 2335 - Halifax - Sarlhusen, South west of Neumuenster - 110331/110332/110338/110339



and
From Tony Wood's Claims files.

Night: 3-4. April 1943
R.A.F. Bomber Command: ESSEN
03.04.43 - Uffz. Hans Baldischweiler - 12./NJG 1 - Halifax - 535 9C: 5.200 m. - 22.45 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.135
03.04.43 - Maj. Werner Streib - Stab I./NJG 1 - Halifax - 6231: 5.000 m. - 22.52 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.65
03.04.43 - Ltn. August Geiger - 7./NJG1 - Lancaster - 5 km. N. Gement: 6.000 m. - 23.00 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.71
03.04.43 - Maj. Werner Streib - Stab I./NJG 1 - Halifax - S.W. Vierlingsbeek: 5.200 m. - 23.00 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.16
03.04.43 - Oblt. Martin Bauer - 3./NJG 1 - Lancaster - 3 km. S.E. Bingtreu: 6.000 m. - 23.01 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.120
03.04.43 - Hptm. Hans-Dieter Frank - 2./NJG 1 - Lancaster - 4 km. N. Kleve: 6.200 m. - 23.02 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.109
03.04.43 - Hptm. Hans-Dieter Frank - 2./NJG 1 - Stirling - 4375 See: 3.100 m. - 23.25 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.110
03.04.43 - Ltn. Schön - 3./NJG 1 - Halifax - Harlings-vliet: 4.800 m. - 23.44 - Film C. 2027/I VNE: ASM
03.04.43 - Uffz. Emil Heinzelmann - 8./NJG 1 - Halifax - Wapenvelt: 4.600 m. - 23.50 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.70
04.04.43 - Maj. Helmut Lent - Stab IV./NJG 1 - Lancaster - 547 7E See: 9.500 m. - 00.24 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.115
04.04.43 - Oblt. Eberhard Gardiewski - 12./NJG 1 - Halifax - 443 6S: 4.000 m. - 00.47 - Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.136
04.04.43 - Ltn. Werner Speidel - 10./NJG 3 - Manchester - 04.32 - Film- C. 2031/I XII. Flg.Kps.

Lancaster R5626 - 83 Sqdn was lost 04.04.43.

Alex

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