[HGabor]

Having the opportunity to review the REAL soviet losses from TsAMO (Podolsk, Russia) sources of the 5 & 17 VA in 1944-45, it was a shocking experience to compare them to Axis claims. For Hartmann, approx. only every 3rd claim had a POTENTIAL match in the soviet records, while for eg. Lipfert, there were nearly perfect matches for 90% of his claims. Would be nice to see other fronts as well, but they are not part of my research. Hope one day others will fill this hole and clarify the rest. I am sure Hartmann did not have more than 150 real victories and it is about time to correct his gigantic lie/legend in aviation history.

In historical research there is no place for outdated political propaganda & fairy tales.

Gabor