[knusel]

There is a saying among German physicians which translates roughly:
"Once something is printed it is cast in stone - if you want to remove it from the stone get something in print that's better!"

I do not claim that Hartmann has shot down 352 planes, I'm even quite sure he didn't.
What's most puzzling to me is that some guys present their personal views as if they were given facts more valid than anything that has ever been written. These guys get aggressive when the audience doesn't cheer and doesn't discredit the greatest aviation authors. That's just too over-selfconfident to be credible to a normal guy like me.