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Old 30th May 2016, 00:12
Andrey Kuznetsov Andrey Kuznetsov is offline
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)

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Originally Posted by Nikita Egorov View Post
It could not appear in GQ since the plane left the unit. All presented in the list were marked as 10-90% of damage and Er together with wear and tear planes moved out of the units, scrapped in Tshir, Oblivskaya etc. Thus, in GQ we see only reason and percentage due to that they were withdrawn from the units.
So GQM returns contains only the part of losses, as I try to say from time to time. In the topic about Lfl 4 losses during Apr.-Jun.43 for example:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...tflotte+losses

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Originally Posted by Nikita Egorov View Post
Just tantamount when damaged plane leaves IAP to PARM for repair and further fate of this plane should be traced in PARMs documents.
In Soviet Air Forces all turnover of the planes was in the documents of IAS (Engineer-Aviation Service) of the Air Armies - including repair units (PARM, PAM, SAM etc), at least from 1942-43. I saw the correspondence between Organizational Dept and Aircraft Accounting Dept of 4.VA with detailed analysis of discrepancy in the number of planes. It was because Organizational Dept didn’t accounted the planes en route between front units and repair units. But on Air Army Staff level the full picture was available.

It seems the same info for Luftwaffe is a total blind-spot. We even can’t say now whether the Luftflotte Staff knew the full info or not.
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