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Old 29th June 2017, 18:57
Laurent Rizzotti Laurent Rizzotti is offline
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Re: KG 53 night claims

I know that in the Luftwaffe the rule was to let the claims to the "boss" (wingmen has no share in kills done with their Rotte or Schwarm leader in most cases), but here here the He 111 pilots had no weapons to fire, except if they used field modified aircraft, so the gunner did the firing while the pilot did the positioning.

Thomas, thanks, actuallu I have Luftwaffe in Focus 5 but I completely forgot this article.

In it crew members of Teige are identified as Fw Rieck, Glonner and Galisch.

And I had also forgotten that Teige was killed in October 1942, in my memory I mixed it with Arnold Döring that also claimed night kills with KG 53 (including 3 TB-3 claimed in one night over Stalingrad, so the "night fighter flights" did not stop in May 1942) and then went to become a JG 300 and then a NJG pilot, claiming his two final kills during operation Gisela in March 1945. AFAIK he survived the war, but I don't know if his interesting story is told in details somewhere ?

By the way, I find interesting the fact that all night claims listed in this thread for Teige, Horn and Döring were for TB-3s, while Soviet used many types at night. Maybe the big size and slow speed of the TB-3 allowed the He 111s to intercept them while the other Soviet types were far more difficult to see and then to engage successfully. And this brings me an idea: could KG 53 have flown this "night patrols" only in areas where TB-3s were flying ? If the TB-3s were withdrawn in June 1942 (and it seems to me that the Soviet unit I was talking in my first post at least did change of targets, so maybe also of area, and then returned in August in Stalingrad area), that could explain why the night scharm was returned to bombing duties.
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