[Cofian]

Thanks. I need some assistance understanding the lingo. Before that, the following:

The problem (in disguise??) is that Palmer's Lanc wasn't the leadplane. The point here is (which clearly follows out of the Combat Reports of the 65 squadron) that at the 'rendez vous' point the fighters only found 2 bomber-groups. The third group wasn't there. At that location, when the real leadplane took a view of the weather, the decision had fallen to step off the planned attack mode and switch over on bombing on sight rather then on automatic. This the two remaining groups did.

The third group, with Palmer in the lead, appeared to not have waited for the other groups AND the escort at the rendez-vous but had moved on independently. This was noticed when they saw a group planes way ahead of them. It then was decide that the 65 squadron would fly ahead to try and pick up the stray group, the other two fighter squadrons remained as protection of the remaining 2 bomber groups.

We now switch over to the 'lead'group with Palmer in the 'lead'plane. With them being where they were, Palmer ofcourse had not picked up the order of the real leadplane to change tactics and attack on sight. Palmer and his group thus pressed on to go on the 'auto' system, which required the planes to drop 'on the lead plane dropping' and also required the bomb-run to be a straight approach. This with a clear sky was ofcourse much more dangerous with flak and German fighters being able to simply 'home-in'.

The 65 squadron was able to catch the stray Palmer group at the time they were about to be attacked by the 26 JG which apparently had by chance run into them.

What does the above (according to me) mean for the footage? With the 65 squadron footage one can thus conclude that the Lanc's you see can ONLY be the Palmer group Lanc's, non of the other Lanc's. The 190 that was shot down was the one attacking the (what also the Germans thought to be) 'lead'group.

If we are able to (maybe??) single out which plane belonged to which of the 3 bomber groups we might then also be able to further pinpoint (by way of determining which plane was where) which Lanc we see hit here.

That is where I have to look at you guys again to 'translate' what precisely you have passed on.