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Old 3rd October 2017, 21:22
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Re: 3./KGr.zbV 9

CJE,

Just because he was a naval pilot he saw the floats and called it therefore an Arado-type of plane.

Pieter,
To check all possibilities it’s good to take the Dutch floatplanes in consideration. But what against it is that Scitivaux talks in his report of a “large German three-engined plane looking like an Arado”. He also states that he has made five times an attack always at the back-side of the German plane. So he must have been able to see five times that his victim has the Balkenkreuz painted on or under the wings.
In September 1939, after the incident with Kriegsmarine aircraft near Ameland, the ‘roundels’ on the planes of the Dutch Army Air Force have been changed into black out-lined orange triangles. See appendix for the painting system on the Fokker T-VIIIw. I also have included a top view of a German Heinkel He 115. So if you compare the two camouflage systems it’s obvious that is impossible to make a German aircraft of the Dutch Fokker T-VIIIw even under combat conditions. It’s a nice thought, but only a Heinkel He 115 remains as a possibility.

I also did some research on the original question of CJE in this thread. As far as I could see Victor Bingham was the first one who has mentioned the Ju 52/3m near IJmuiden as from 3./KGzbV 9. In Blitzed! The battle of France May-June 1940, New Malden, 1990 he mentioned at page 223:
3./KGzbV.9, Ju52, Shot down nr Ijmuiden by Po631, 100%. At the end of his summary he states: Transcribed from Luftwaffe Quartermaster General Daily Returns of Aircraft Losses held at IWM. In my copy of the same document there is no mention of a Ju 52/3m shot down by a Po631 near IJmuiden at May 10th, 1940. Not a Ju 52/3m near IJmuiden nor shot down by a Po631.

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