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Old 23rd November 2017, 11:16
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Alter Hase
 
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Re: Hartmann's victims

Hi gentlemen

I have some remarks and questions.

Rall:about his claim of 18/05/40
What do we do with the claims of Lothar Ehrlich,Otto Decker,Adolf Walter (one Curtis each).

Review of GC II/5:
Effectively Hanzlicek shot down (Curtis n°27).

but also
Lt Houzé crash-landed (Toul Curtis n°129)
Cdt Hugues posed in emergency to Metz-Frescaty (Curtis n°144 abandoned,very badly damaged)

So 3 losses for 4 claims.
Testimory of Rall after war:
After his fight,he made his report without claiming anything (he had not had time to see his bullet reach his target).

"I was surprised to learn that I had shot down a Curtis (Testimony of Lt Lossnitz)"

So,Hanzlicek actually shot down by Rall?...not so sure.

About Barkhorn:

281° abschuss 16/11/44 "20 km SW Gyongyos" LA-5 192 IAP Ml.Lt.Ol'nev....Actually?

And the claims of Debrody Gyorgy (La-5 "Jaszberény":36 km Sud Gyongyos (claim of Barkhorn)by road

Boldizsar Laszlo (La-5 "Jaszfelsoszentgyorgy":10 km of Jaszberény and 45 km of Gyongyos,by road)

Pintér Gyula (La-5 "Jaszberény") by road

Ewald (La-5 "98491")

To my Knowledge 14 Yaks and 2 La-5 lost over eastern Hungary that day,Ml.Lt.Ol'nev actually shot down by Barkhorn?....possible but not so sure and seems overclaiming.

So, Gentlemen,Any Idea?

Best Regards


Michel
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