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Old 27th January 2018, 11:46
Laurent Rizzotti Laurent Rizzotti is offline
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Re: George Edward Moberly

The link provided by RSwank is a copy of Wikipedia (I guess this kind of website is supposed to generate advertissement money without proposing anything new by the way, but this is not the subject).

Still the original Wikipedia entry give no hint how they identify the victim of Oblt Josef Fözö that day. As I have said above, the Germans overclaimed by 2,25 to 1, so saying who shot down who will be nearly impossible. But we can say who probably didn't shot down who, and in this case, Fözö, who claimed a Spitfire in Canterbury half an hour after the first German claims is probably not the pilot who shot down the first RAF pilot lost that day off Dover.

Even if Moberly had been shot down at the right time and place, two other pilots of 4./JG 51 claimed victories at the same time and place, so choosing one as the real victor is pure guess.

Regarding Desmond Cooke, on that day German pilots claimed 4 victories against fighter for 3 RAF losses, so close to the mark. RAF lost a Spitfire of 65 Sqn (Cooke) and two Hurricanes of 79 Sqn a little earlier.

The Luftwaffe claims that day (8 July 1940)
08.07.40 Ofw. Maximilian Stotz: 9 4./JG 54 Blenheim £ südlich Rotterdam 14.10 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 4/II-81B
Battle against a Hudson of 206 Sqn RAF that was not shot down



08.07.40 Ltn. Hermann Staiger: 3 7./JG 51 Spitfire £ N.W. Cap Gris Nez 16.35 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 4/II-44B
08.07.40 Ltn. Kurt Bildau: 2 7./JG 51 Spitfire £ N.W. Cap Gris Nez 16.35 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 4/II-45B
08.07.40 Oblt. Arnold Lignitz: 5 9./JG 51 Hurricane £ N.W. Cap Gris Nez 16.35 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 4/II-46B
Probably against 79 Sqn RAF (two losses)


08.07.40 Oblt. Josef Fözö: 2 4./JG 51 Spitfire £ nördlich Dover 16.45 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 4/II-32B
Probably against 65 Sqn RAF (one loss)
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