[Nick Hector]

Originally Posted by focusfocus

Hello

Who can identify the corresponding losses?

04/07/43: source Tony Wood

one P-47,10km W.N.W cap d'antifer (Etretat) 13h.22
one spit,S.Vaucelles N.N.W Caen 17h.32

Regards
michel

As additional help, here is the Tony Wood summary for that day

4. July 1943

VIII Bomber Command 71: LE MANS, NANTES, LA PALLICE

275/237: 8 lost 1 Cat.E

VIII Fighter Command 64: Bomber-Support

93 sent: 0-0-0 air: nil

09.00 z Ramrod 122
This US VIII BC mission # 71 was flown in three parts, to LE MANS, LA PALLICE & NANTES. G.A.F. fighter-reaction to the Le Mans and Nantes forces was particularly strong.
Part I LE MANS (Gnome-et-Rhône et. Cie. motor-assembly plant): 1st Bomb-Wing (91, 303, 351, 379, 381, 384 BG): 121 B-17s dispatched, 105 credited with bombing. B-17s dropped 1018 x 500-lb. GP from 21-23,000-feet at 12.40-43 hrs. Two B-17s dropped on the rail-yard at Le Mans. Route: Selsey to point 15 miles N.W. Pointe de Barfleur, to St. Lô, to Laval, to Le Mans; out via Montfort, St. Cosme and Argentan. Weather: fine, 2/10th cover over target. Claims 24-5-15 for the loss of 4 B-17s. Withdrawal-Support by eight squadrons of Spitfires.
Part II NANTES (S.N.C.A. de l'Ouest et Cie: airframe-assembly): 1st Bomb-Wing (92, 305, 306 BG): 71 B-17s dispatched, 61 credited with bombing. B-17s dropped 580 x 500-lb. GP from 21,500-25,000-feet at 12.46-49 hrs. Results assessed as excellent. Route similar to first force to Laval, thence to 47º 20' North 01º 17' West to Nantes. Enemy fighter opposition reported as moderate to strong with about 70-80 single-engined E/A being encountered on both missions.Weather: fine, 2/10th cover over target. Claims 28-9-7 for the loss of 3 B-17s. Withdrawal-Support by eight squadrons of Spitfires. On the Le Mans mission, enemy opposition started at the I.P. and continued to Argentan. On Nantes mission, from over I.P. for over an hour until force was 35 miles off French coast. FW 190s carried yellow noses. Aerial-bombing reported.
Part III LA PALLICE (U-boat pens): 4th Bomb-Wing (94, 95, 96,100 BG): 83 B-17s dispatched, 71 credited with bombing. B-17s dropped 275 x 1,000-lb. GP from 23-27,500-feet at 12.01-04 hrs. Pracitally no enemy opposition encountered: only 6-10 E/A reported. One B-17 missing, claim 0-1-0. Ref: VIII BC.

VIII Bomber Command # 71: 1st Bomb-Wing

11 Group Ramrod 122/I

Gnome-et-Rhône LE MANS

12.40 t: 121/105 B-17 Fortress: 4 lost

VIII Bomber Command # 71: 1st Bomb-Wing

11 Group Ramrod 122/II

S.N.C.A. de l'Ouest NANTES

12.46 t: 71/61 B-17 Fortress: 3 lost

VIII Bomber Command # 71: 4th Bomb-Wing

11 Group Ramrod 122/III

Lock-gates LA PALLICE

12.40 t: 83/71 B-17 Fortress: 1 lost

1st Withdrawal-Support: Hornchurch
RAF 11 Gp. Ratten 1 Spitfire F.IX 12.00-14.05 Ramrod 122 0 - ½ - 0 FW 190 No casualty WD-S: from Argentan

Claim 04.07.43 W/Cdr. J.R. Ratten 11 Group Hornchurch 0 - ½ - 0 FW 190 13.10 ca: 15 sm. N.E. Etretat

RAF 11 Gp. 222 Sqn. 11 Spitfire F.IX 12.00-14.05 Ramrod 122 0 - ½ - 0 FW 190 No casualty WD-S: from Argentan

Claim 04.07.43 Pilot 11 Group 222 Sqn. 0 - ½ - 0 FW 190 13.10 ca: 15 sm. N.E. Etretat

2nd Withdrawal-Support: Northolt
RAF 11 Gp. Gabsewicz 1 Spitfire F.IX 12.00-14.05 Ramrod 122 1 - 0 - 0 FW 190 No casualty WD-S: from Argentan

Claim 04.07.43 W/Cdr. A. Gabsewicz 11 Group Northolt 1 - 0 - 0 FW 190 13.10 ca: 10 sm. N. Argentan

RAF 11 Gp. 316 Sqn. 11 Spitfire F.IX 12.00-14.05 Ramrod 122 1 - 0 - 0 FW 190 No casualty WD-S: from Argentan

Claim 04.07.43 F/O Ciastula 11 Group 316 Sqn. 1 - 0 - 0 FW 190 13.10 ca: 10 sm. N. Argentan

Subsidiary Operations:

RAF 11 Group Ramrod 124

RAF 2 Group

Rail-yards Amiens-LONGEAU

16.00 z: 12/98 & 180 Sqn. Mitchell II

Close-Escort: Redhill
RAF 11 Gp. 411 Sqn. 12 Spitfire LF.Vb 16.45-18.15 Ramrod 124 0 - 0 - 1 Me 109G 1 Cat.Em 1Cat.B M-BS: Amiens

Cat.Em 04.07.43 F/O J.R. Spaetzel: kia 11 Group 411 Sqn. Spitfire Vb: AB802 Me 109s: Amiens

Escort-Cover: 122 Airfield
RAF 83 Gp. 122 Sqn. 10 Spitfire LF.Vb 16.05-18.12 Ramrod 0 - 0 - 1 Me 109G 2 Cat.Em Fighters M-BS: Amiens

Cat.Em 04.07.43 F/Sgt. R.S. Williams: p/w 83 Group 122 Sqn. Spitfire Vb: BM634 Me 109s: Amiens
Cat.Em 04.07.43 Sgt. W.M. Whittaker: p/w 83 Group 122 Sqn. Spitfire Vb: AD416 Me 109s: Amiens

Claim 04.07.43 Pilot 83 Group 122 Sqn. 0 - 0 - 1 Me 109G 17.20 ca: Amiens

High-Cover: Hornchurch
RAF 11 Gp. Ratten 1 Spitfire F.IX 16.45-18.30 Ramrod 124 0 - 1 - 0 FW 190 No casualty M-BS: Amiens

Claim 04.07.43 W/Cdr. J.R. Ratten 11 Group Hornchurch 0 - 1 - 0 FW 190 17.25 ca: 10 sm. ESE Abbeville

RAF 11 Gp. 129 Sqn. 11 Spitfire F.IX 16.45-18.30 Ramrod 124 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 Cat.Em Fighter M-BS: Amiens

Cat.Em 04.07.43 F/Sgt. C. Woodhall: kia 11 Group 129 Sqn. Spitfire F.IX: BS273 FW 190s: ESE Abbeville

RAF 11 Gp. 222 Sqn. 11 Spitfire F.IX 16.45-18.30 Ramrod 124 1 - 0 - 0 FW 190 No casualty M-BS: Amiens

Claim 04.07.43 Pilot 11 Group 222 Sqn. 1 - 0 - 0 FW 190 17.25 ca: 10 sm. ESE Abbeville