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Old 28th May 2018, 20:42
Kari Lumppio Kari Lumppio is offline
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Re: 152 IAP late P-40 Warhaws with red star on white circle insignia Aug 1944

Hello!

I compared the 152 IAP Curtiss construction numbers to those given in the Romamenko's article. They all seem to fall in the same P-40E range. Or Romanenko's numbers include also K and later subtypes.

Red star on white circle was ALSIB route marking, yes? Only 48 P-40 K arrived via that route according Romanenko.

7 VA concentrated four Il-2 regiments to Ilomantsi sector early August, 1944:
828 and 839 at Hirvas ( http://www.fallingrain.com/apts/41165.html )
17 GShAP and 214 ShAP at Sopokha ( http://www.fallingrain.com/world/RS/28/Sopokha.html ).


My first thought years ago was that the sighted planes were P-39 for which such markings were "normal". But there seemed to be no suitable unit in the range, then.

There was two Soviet Airacobra units which may come into question:

20 GIAP was based at "Sumeretsi" 14.7.-5.8. and then went to Gremjaha far away from Ilomantsi. Sumetetsi on the other hand is some 180 km from Vellivaara and less than 15 km from Ajta-Lamba 2 ,the 152 IAP base!
(see: http://www.fallingrain.com/world/RS/28/Sumerechi.html )
What if 20 GIAP still was there in 9.8.?


773 IAP was at Vitele (Vidlitsa) - also some 180 km away.


So these two P-39 units were in the same range as 152 IAP with P-40. Despite what I thought before pinpointing the locations of their bases done now. Mix up of types is a real possibility.

BTW I forgot to give the flight time for the Finnish Bf 109 quintet. It was 15.15-16.20 (16.15-17.20 Moscow time). This points also towards P-39 opponents.


On the other hand the quest for photo of 152 IAP P-40 from Summer 1944 still continues.



Cheers,
Kari

Last edited by Kari Lumppio; 29th May 2018 at 07:32. Reason: Corrected 19 GIAP to 20 GIAP
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