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Re: Did Bf109G's use Gunpods during Kursk?

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Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád
AFAIK, the Hungarians received the first used F-4Bs in December 1942, at the time when the Rumanians - the only other small Axis power heavily involved in combat on the Eastern Front - were still flying 'Emils' nearby Stalingrad.

As for the word 'Nazis', it refers to members of the National-Socialist ('Nazi') Party. Therefore, the usage of this overused adjective should be avoided by any serious historian in a military history context. The same is valid for the usage of the word 'Communist', too.
Dénes,

The Hungarians received their first F-4's not in December, 1942. I mentioned 1943, when the Romanian flew with G-2's, when the Hungarian used still F-4's. And the Romanians flew with Emils in 1941 too, when the Hungarians used CR 42's in Ukraine.

I know very well, who were the Nazis. BTW I have many unpublished documents regarding the Hungarian-German military and economical relationship (regarding the aircraft businesses as well - significant number of the German functionaries, who worked in this line, were members of the NSDAP)

George,

IMHO between the F-4 and G-2, there was only a small difference, but these used F-4's had generally very old engines, with a lot of mechanical problems. I have many details about crashes, crash landings because engine troubles from this period (and the old pilots mentioned me additional ones, which not remained in the documents).
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