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Old 4th August 2018, 14:37
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Re: Erwin Clausen, 132 or 100 aerial-victories

Johannes,

Are you sure that there are no gaps for the units that where Clausen made claims?

I’ve been comparing various researchers/authors list to see the difference and when comparing your data with Priens JFV series, - the JFV series claim number match the higher numbers you quoted being 30 higher than yours. For Clausen’s claims while with 6./JG 77 both lists are very comparable (your No’s 28- 90, JFV 58-120 – as you stated 30 claims higher). Also, when comparing your list with T Woods Data the JG 11 data is also quite comparable (yours 91 -100, TW 121-132) – the 2 extra T Woods listed claims are Clausen’s last 2 claims which look like they may not have been confirmed?

However the claims in 1(J)./LG 2 which became 1./JG77 in December 1941 seems to be a mess with a lot of differences and Prien has many additional claims. This amount of differences even carried though after July 42 after Clausen transferred to 6./JG77 – Where the 6./JG77 is very comparable 1./JG 77 is not.

With respect to Clausen’s missing claims, Prien in his JFV list has an additional 25 (of the missing 30) claims between 16 Jan 1942 and 31 May 1942 inclusive that are not in your data but I also note that they are NOT marked with “B” (bestätigen – which the JFV team puts against claims that they have evidence of being confirmed) thus probably why not in the claims file and not in your list. Prien list claims for other pilots in that period that are not in the claims files (thus not in your list) including Hannak, Berres, and Guhl which have previously been considered to have higher scores than what you list. The other 5 claims are earlier with some the JFV team have determined to have been confirmed. It seems to me that with the high number of missing claims/claim not confirmed? for several pilots and the general mess with little matching between sources that the data for 1./JG 77 is incomplete in that period. Especially when compared to most other units like 6./JG77 where the data is very comparable between the sources.

To me it just seems too much variable that some data is not to be missing.

Regards,

Craig…
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