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Old 15th February 2020, 13:27
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 210 scorers

RHAF RKI-flight Me 210Ca-1, 'Z.0+54' (Gy.sz.: 210.108.054) with Dóczy Lóránd alez. (Lt.Col.) pilot and Stark Elek őrm. (Sgt.) radioman-gunner also got credited a P-38 on April 13, 1944 at Szolgaegyháza (Szabadegyháza), Hungary, while the 15 AAF lost no P-38s this day. (It had to be a damaged plane only.)

RHAF RKI-flight Me 210Ca-1, 'Z.0+31' (Gy.sz.: 210.073.031) with Pozsgay Antal hdgy. (Lt.) pilot and Szukits Imre (Sgt.) radioman-gunner got credited a P-38 on April 13, 1944 at Kiskunlacháza-NW, Hungary, while the 15 AAF lost no P-38s this day. (It had to be a damaged plane only.)

15 AAF, 82 FG, 95 FS, P-38G-10-LO, S/N: 42-13030 crashed near Vincenzo in Italy this day (Robert L. Joley killed). Not sure if it was fatally damaged on the Budapest mission by the prev. Hungarian Me 210Ca-1 destroyers and crashed at home, or it was just simply a fatal training accident.

RHAF RKI-flight Me 210Ca-1, 'Z.0+14' (Gy.sz.: 210.034.014) with Béles Tibor hdgy. (Lt.) pilot and Pajor József (Sgt.) radioman-gunner got credited a B-24 at Katymár-S, Hungary on April 13, 1944. This crashed plane was 15 AAF, 304 BW, 454 BG, 738 BS, B-24H-10-FO, S/N: 42-52248, "Stand By", however, chances are that it was downed by Me 110G of 5./ZG.1 (Oblt. Romain).

5/1. éjszakai vadászszázad (5/1. "Owl" NFS) Me 210Ca-1, 'Z.0+??' (Gy.sz.: 210.???.0??) with Zsámboki Dezső őrm. (Sgt.) pilot and Sallós Gábor (Géza?) őrv. radioman-gunner got credited a B-24 at Gara-W, on April 13, 1944. But: since they were killed at Paks still on April 3, 1944, they could not score anything on April 13th. Not to mention, that on April 13, 1944 a B-17 (B-17F-105-BO, S/N: 42-30436) and NOT a B-24 crashed at Gara-W! Here the records were obviously messed up. The solution could be that they mutually shot each other down with 15 AAF, 304 BW, 459 BG, 758 BS B-24H-15-FO, S/N: 42-52322, "Hellzapoppin", which also crashed near Paks on April 3, 1944, at Kajdacs-N, and this B-24 was credited to them later on the 13th at Gara. (Wrong date, wrong type)

(RKI-flight = (Hungarian) Air Experimental Institute, Destroyer Squadron - Ferihegy airport, Budapest)

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