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More details to the November 17, 1944
On the day of the aerial battle between 10.20-11.40 a.m., another IL-2 was slightly damaged and the gunner (Boris Ivanovitch Ivanov) was wounded on the legs.
Bomber 218 BAD, 453 BAP A-20G (S/N: 42-53956), Lost not directly via Ocsa. Lt. Danielyan flew over the front line and seated a burning plane, after which enemy fighters fired to the plant and four attacks after planting. The plane was destroyed.
On October 27, 1944 207 okrap lost 1 IL-2 and 2 Jak-9, which did not return from enemy flight. The losses occurred described Lipfert exactly in his book.
O 12.36 (10.36 German time) yet another IL-2 from 207 okrap was attacked by 2 German Me109 which carried out 2 attacks.
There is nothing in the chronicle of the 5 VA.
The Soviets mostly only did not return from enemy flight, and when it came to a dogfight "everyone returned to the airfield". Though one or two pulled a plume of smoke behind them. As long as no one has seen anything from the other place. Aircraft can be repaired.
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