[John Vasco]

Originally Posted by Nick Beale

John,
Just what do you think you deserve when you're so ready to be angry with and curse out other forum members? They may in your view not achieve a sufficient standard of analytical acuity — does anyone? — but that's no reason not observe some elementary courtesy when posting. You too might get a bit more respect, which your research and writing unquestionably merit, were you less inclined to go on the attack.

OK, Nick, let's look at the WHOLE conversation, eh?

Originally Posted by edwest2
Can you explain the chevron with a circle marking on the tail? It is new to me.

Originally Posted by ouidjat
That is (my) the question Ed. Never seen too.

Originally Posted by John Vasco
On 109s, the chevron-circle was the maring(sic - I missed the 'k' out) of the Technical Officer, placed forward of the fuselage cross.
That's all I can think of it - the aircraft of the TO.
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OK, let's pause there, Nick. I posted a reasonable suggestion as to the 'chevron-circle'.
No one has the definitive answer. I simply posted a suggestion.
OK so far.

Then this:
Originally Posted by ouidjat
Thanks John,
Yes, but that wasn't my question.

What? You asked about the chevron and circle, and I posted a suggestion.

I then posted, again in a reasonable manner:
Originally Posted by John Vasco
The point I was making, Franck, was that what is known as the TO's marking on 109s might also be equally applicable to that He 111. Do you not see the connection?
The response, and the introduction of capital letters:
Originally Posted by ouidjat
Yes, I DO SEE the connection John but "IS THAT SYMBOL ON HE 111 RUDDER A REALLY STAB SYMBOL" or another thing with another meaning since I never seen stab symbol on bombers' rudders.
Is it so difficult to understand ?

Do you see where this is going, Nick...? I give a simple possible explanation, and the guy keeps coming back at me. Do I just sit back and take being made out to be a fool?

My response:
Originally Posted by John Vasco
Neither have I. But with the Luftwaffe, anything is possible. Is it not impossible that that a stab symbol has been placed on the rudder? Is it so difficult to understand?
Fucks sake!!!

The capitals, and the questioning of whether something is difficult to understand is basically an insult to my intelligence, and my attempt to try to make sense of that marking on the rudder. Hence my bolded and underlined sentence, and my last two words of exasperation. I offer a reasonable suggestion, and he continues to take a rise out of me. Well, if one does that, I do not cower down and acquiesce.

Then he posts this:
Originally Posted by ouidjat
Okay,
does one fellow member know another example of He 111, Ju 88 ... wearing a Stab symbol on rudder ?
Regards,
Franck.

Now if you look back to his original post regarding the chevron-circle, that wasn't his original question. This encompasses his original question: edwest2"...Can you explain the chevron with a circle marking on the tail? It is new to me. Originally Posted by ouidjat That is (my) the question Ed..."
My reply:
That is NOT the point, Franck! Can you not see that?
It is a TO symbol normally seen on 109s, but that symbol is seen here on a He 111 rudder. A potential 'one-off', or a marking not previously seen. THAT is the point!
Jeez, how much more explaining do I have to give you!!!

Originally Posted by ouidjat
No, I don't see the point.
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I'll just leave it there at this point.

If you think I'm the baddie, or the shit-stirrer in this, then fine, there's nothing I can do to change that. But go read the exchange again from the top of this post. If someone insults me on here (or tries to take a rise out of me) or anywhere else, it ain't a free pass for them...