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Old 6th July 2020, 13:37
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Re: Barkhorn: claims vs. victories

Johannes,
Düttmann's claims in 1945 were absolutely terrible. I should say they contain some 'traces of victories'. Without much details, that -by the way- would worth a book:

08/03/1945 - 16.24 - OVERCLAIM - Yak-3
08/03/1945 - 16.27 - OVERCLAIM - Yak-3
09/03/1945 - 13.51 - OVERCLAIM - La-5
09/03/1945 - 13.53 - OVERCLAIM - Il-2mH.
11/03/1945 - 13.23 - OVERCLAIM - Yak-9
11/03/1945 - 13.26 - OVERCLAIM - Yak-9
11/03/1945 - 15.21 - OVERCLAIM - Yak-9
14/03/1945 - 12.55 - CONFIRMED VICTORY - Boston (S/N: 43-21519)
16/03/1945 - 13.55 - OVERCLAIM - Il-2mH.
16/03/1945 - 13.56 - OVERCLAIM - Il-2mH.
16/03/1945 - 13.58 - OVERCLAIM - Il-2mH.
16/03/1945 - 13.59 - OVERCLAIM - Il-2mH.
16/03/1945 - 14.01 - POTENTIAL VICTORY - Il-2mH. (S/N: 18874124)
18/03/1945 - 14.05 - OVERCLAIM - Yak-3
19/03/1945 - 11.52 - OVERCLAIM - Il-2mH.
19/03/1945 - 14.56 - OVERCLAIM - Yak-3
19/03/1945 - 15.03 - POTENTIAL VICTORY - La-5 (S/N: 39211166)
20/03/1945 - 14.05 - OVERCLAIM - P-51

Soviet records cannot be mistaken. (- and we have them in our museum's records!) They list even the number of bullets fired/used during the missions by calibre, dropped bombs by number and kind, fired wing rockets, - everything. Take off times, landing times (Moscow time!), events, losses, so again: everything. Usually there were several hours of time gaps between Düttmann's claims and the confirmed soviet losses. But eg. on March 16, 1945 several IL-2s returned with combat damages (eg. S/N: 1871494, 1871988, 1872787), which might be linked to Düttmann's actions, but they were not lost. They landed safely, got repaired, then took off again. I was shocked to see the inaccuracy of Düttmann's claims. But if the German office for any reasons recorded wrong details (time, type, location of victory, etc.), certainly I cannot verify that and I can compare only the records that have been written down.

Gabor

Last edited by HGabor; 6th July 2020 at 14:52.
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