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Hello everyone, I am not systematically comparing claims from German pilots with VVS losses as Michael does. Only in cases when we worked on some separate loss of VVS in this area and clarified the circumstances according to the documents of the other party. I sent some comparisons on the found wreck sites to Johannes. I can, if possible, look at the individual groups of claims and clarify how these individual air battles are reflected in the Soviet records.

Today, incidentally, I recalled the story of 2018, which confirms the claim of one of the mentioned Germans.
15.01.1943 - Seversky - 9./JG 51 - Lt. Mayerl Maximilian - nordnordwestlich Rshew (3766) - 12.08 at 1000m - claim 35

This application corresponds to the circumstances of the death of the Su-2 spotter aircraft from 35 OKRAE 3 VA and the entire crew of three (st.l-t Abusov N.M., l-t Brovtsyn V.N., l-t Pylaev A.V). Despite the cover of 7 fighters from 157 IAP, the Germans managed to take advantage of the mistakes of the covering group. First, one group of Germans tied one "flight" in battle, and already on the retreat from the combat area due to uncoordinated actions (turn in different directions), the second group of Soviet fighters lost their spotter, leaving a lone Su-2 against a pair of FW-190s. This was one of two losses of this type of aircraft in the area (the second was lost somewhat earlier by a separate squadron from 1 VA in the Karmanovo-Sychevka sector.

Best regards,
Kirill