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Old 10th April 2022, 01:49
Laurent Rizzotti Laurent Rizzotti is offline
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Re: Questions about Operation Steinbock losses

I criss-crossed you list with my data:

2 Jan: 2 damaged (non-operational)
5 Jan: 1 destroyed on ground by bombs + 1 damaged (non-operational)
10 Jan: 1 damaged (non-operational)
Not in table: 10 Jan: 4 MIA, 2 KIA for I./KG 26 in Med in book “Torpedo Los”, losses also in MAW4
13 Jan: 1 damaged (non-operational)
14 Jan: 1 damaged (non-operational)
21 Jan: 3 destroyed and 5 damaged on ground by bombs + 1 destroyed and 1 damaged (non-operational)
22 Jan: 1 destroyed (non-operational) – He 111 H-6 WNr 7071 of 11./KG 55 (4 KIFA) https://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=40390
23 Jan: 1 destroyed (non-operational)
Not in table: I./KG 26 (4 dead, 2 wounded in Med this day in book “Torpedo Los”) 3 He 111 lost off Italy in MAW4
24 Jan: 1 destroyed and 1 damaged (non-operational) – possibly IV./KG 53 (4 killed this day in book “Kampfgeswchader 53 Legion Condor”)
Not in table: I./KG 26 (4 MIA this day in book “Torpedo Los”), 1 He 111 lost off Italy in MAW4
25 Jan: 1 damaged (non-operational)
26 Jan: 2 damaged (non-operational)
27 Jan: 1 damaged on ground by bombs
Not in table: He 111 P-2 WNr 1592 of school B-15 shot down by an Intruder near Bourges (3 KIA), Avions n°77
1 Feb: 1 missing on operational flight – possibly I./KG 26 (4 MIA, 4 WIA in Med this day in book “Torpedo Los”), 1 He 111 lost in Med (3 MIA, 1 POW) and another crash-landed in Spain (4 WIA) in MAW4
3 Feb:1 damaged (non-operational)
5 Feb: 1 destroyed in air combat – He 111 11./KG 55 shot down by an Intruder (3 KIA) http://www.btinternet.com/~air_research/kg55loss.pdf (dead link) + 6 destroyed and 5 damaged on ground by bombs
Note: second line losses under bombs 1 He 111 of KG 101 damaged in Tours, 1 He 111 of Telefunken Berlin damaged in Villacoublay. Avions n°82
Note: according to a testimony in book “Kampfgeswchader 53 Legion Condor” IV./KG 53 base was bombed and 3 airmen were killed, but no aircraft was hit
6 Feb: 2 destroyed and 3 damaged on ground by bombs
7 Feb: 1 damaged (non-operational)
Not in table: 7 Feb: 4 MIA for I./KG 26 in Med in book “Torpedo Los”, nothing in MAW4 on this date
8 Feb: 1 damaged (non-operational) – possibly He 111 H-6 WNr 7772 of KG 101, 15% in Germany. Avions n°82
11 Feb: 2 damaged on operations but not by enemy action
Not in table: 12 Feb: 4 MIA for I./KG 26 in Med in book “Torpedo Los”, 1 He 111 in Corsica in MAW4
13 Feb: 1 damaged (non-operational)
Not in table: 13 Feb: He 111 P-5 WNr 1691 of FFS B-15 100% loss in accident near Bourges (7 KIFA), Avions n°82
16 Feb: 1 destroyed (non-operational)
26 Feb: 1 destroyed (non-operational) – possibly Heinkel 111 Z-1 WNr 2704 of IV./LLG 2 (3 WIA) https://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/Cra1944-1.htm, but was shot down by an Intruder
Not in table: 3 March He 111 E WNr 1268 of Ld.Kdo Westküste Frankreich damaged at 40% by enemy fire (no crew loss), Avions n°88

4 March: 1 destroyed (non-operational)
18 March: 1 destroyed and 1 damaged on ground by bombs
Not in table: 21 March: He 111 P-5 WNr 1993 of FFS B-15 100% shot down by P-51 (2 KIA, 3 WIA), Avions n°88
Not in table: 27 March: 1 He 111 destroyed and 1 damaged at Cazaux by bombs (both of Erpr.St.d.Lw Rechlin), Avions n°88
28 March: 7 destroyed and 7 damaged on ground by bombs – possibly at Dijon (2 WIA for IV./KG 55) and/or Tavaux (1 KIA, 1 WIA for IV./KG 55) https://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/Cra1944-1.htm
Not in table: 28 March: 1 He 111 of FFS B-15 1 damaged at Nimes in accident, Avions n°88
Not in table: 30 Mar: 4 MIA for I./KG 26 in Med in book “Torpedo Los”, 1 He 111 crashed off French Med coast (3 MIA, 1 KIA) in MAW4
20 April: 1 damaged (non-operational)
23 April: 3 destroyed and 2 damaged in air combat – 5 He 111 of IV./KG 55 shot down or crash-landed (9 KIA, 7 WIA) https://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/Cra1944-1.htm
25 April: 4 destroyed and 3 damaged on ground by bombs
28 April: 1 destroyed on ground by bombs and 1 damaged on ground ‘by aircraft fire’ [strafing]
4 May: 4 destroyed in air combat – 4 He 111 of IV./KG 55 shot down (8 KIA, 3 WIA) https://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/Cra1944-1.htm
8 May: 1 destroyed on ground by bombs
11 May: 1 destroyed on ground by bombs

Remarks:
_ of all I./KG 26 known losses in the period, only 1 on 1 Februay is possibly in the Luftflotte 3 table, and it is not even sure (2 KG 26 losses that day, only one in table)
_ of all the second-lines losses in the period, probably none are in the table, except possibly 2 on 5 February
_ identified losses with correct number and cause are from IV./KG 55, and possibly IV./KG 53

Comparison between Luftflotte 3 and Flugzeugbestand show no clear link:
January: 15 due to enemy action (I./KG 26 15), 6 without enemy action (I./KG 26 4, IV./KG 53 1, IV./KG 55 1)
February: 5 due to enemy action (I./KG 26 4, IV./KG 55 1), 1 without enemy action (IV./KG 55 1)
March: 5 due to enemy action (I./KG 26 2, IV./KG 55 2, IV./KG 53 1), 2 without enemy action (I./KG 26 1, IV./KG 55 1)
April: 21 due to enemy action (IV./KG 55 14, I./KG 26 6, IV./KG 53 1), 4 without enemy action (IV./KG 53 4)
May: 7 due to enemy action (IV./KG 55 7), 5 without enemy action (IV./KG 55 5)

Table:
January: 4 destroyed on the ground, 3 destroyed non-operational
February: 1 missing on operational flight, 1 destroyed in air combat, 8 destroyed on the ground, 2 destroyed non-operational
March: 8 destroyed on the ground, 1 destroyed non-operational
April: 3 destroyed in air combat, 5 destroyed on the ground
May: 4 destroyed in air combat, 2 destroyed on the ground
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