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Old 7th April 2023, 10:55
Courtois Laurent Courtois Laurent is offline
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

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Originally Posted by focusfocus View Post
Hello

Really ? Bizien victim of Wagner....why not Derville or Poznanski?

And "Quid" of the claims of Pfhaler (his victim..Bizien?, or victim of Schamberger ?

The 3 made their claims in the same region...Spas-Demjansk

Michel
Hello Michel,

All the works can be read here :

https://aérofanzine.fr/categorie-produit/dernier-numero/

Or you could read on extract the 1éth april in my page, and foloowing day by day the story of the "Normandie".

https://normandie-niemen.fr/

Derville was the last shooted, near the lac of Miliatio. If would be an question it's would Why Bizien more than Poznansky ?

"The first victim of the attack is BIZIEN who is lost sight of by his teammate Yves MAHÉ. It is therefore probably the victory (225) claimed by Feldwebel Rudolf WAGNER in sector 455574 at an altitude of 1000 meters. An altitude loss of about 1500 meters and very much in line with a dogfight.
At 3:13 p.m., patrol no. 3, which had returned to a high position (about 3,000 m), was attacked by two FW 190s. This attack must match the first claim by Hans PFAHLER (No. 472). The latter having touched POZNANSKI for the first time, had to consider it destroyed (overclaimed). Then the French pilot dives and disappears in the clouds, certainly pursued by the enemy FW 190s. His disappearance must correspond to the victory (Nr 473) won by the Oberfeldwebel Hans PFALFER in the medeltrapez 45572.
According to Commander TULASNE's report, the fight lasted about ten minutes.
The attack of the newly formed DERVILLE MAHÉ patrol therefore takes place around 3:20 p.m. at the front line, it can only be the fight in sector 45522. The two yaks turn left to ward off the attack. MAHÉ sees DERVILLE's plane leave in the direction of the German lines, leaving a long trail of black smoke. 5 minutes later, the unteroffizier claims another victory in the Medeltrapez 45542. The most probable hypothesis is that he has just "completed" the Yak of DERVILLE.
Be that as it may, there is near certainty that at least two of the French pilots (BIZIEN and POZNANSKI)
fell around Krassilino airfield".

extract of aérofanzine n°1 p.ZZ

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