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Old 15th February 2007, 05:34
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Re: Severe Overclaimers Vs. Reliable Claimers List

-Update -Addition to Reliable Claimers Oskar Romm (92/79EVV)

92 Oskar Romm -On the basis of 5 Feb 44 mission in which he claimed 1 Soviet Yak & 5 Bostons -Yak shot down & 6/8 Bostons claimed by JG51 were shot down. On the basis of this single mission I will assign him a VERY PRELIMINARY claim reliability ESTIMATE of 79.2% and Estimate his Verified victories @ (79EVV)

Recently, I attempted to initiate a database of Historically Verifiable Victories (VV). Although some headway (especially with WWI German Aces) has been attained, the result, has not yet become what one might have hoped. Perhaps a more realistic approach would be to garner a sense of which aces were reliable versus exaggerated claimants. Admittedly, as with Historically Verifiable Victories Thread, the this would be an IMPERFECT and CONTROVERSIAL undertaking, however, eventually, and which much vetting, this avenue might garner some historical insight. To reduce my workload, I will keep this list EXCLUSIVE from the more concrete results obtained in the Historically Verifiable Victories (VV) Thread.

Alleged Heavy Overclaimers
352 Erich Hartmann –based on ‘research’ of Dimitri Khazanov
258 Walter Nowotny
224 Erich Rudorffer Afrika “Rudorffer's serious overclaims over the eastern front” Falsified Claims in Afrika?
173 Emil Lang
129 Walter Dahl –less than 100 credits according to J-Y Lorant
127 Walter Oesau
112 Kurt Bühlingen
99 Heinrich Bartels
94 Rudolf Muller
93 Sigfried Schnell
56 Helmut Wick
37 Thomas McGwire (Harry Brown (7) personally related that McGwire scrambled, parachuted over base & claimed 3 kills he could not possibly have made!)
33 Erwin Sawallisch (Allegedly caught falsifying combats with schwarm in Afrika –may have subsequently killed himself -Source Hans Ring/Chris Shores)

JG2 in Afrika, JG5 , JG54 are some of the Luftwaffe Units Alleged to have had a licentious attitude over overclaiming.

Alleged Reliable Claimers
(Keep in mind that few pilots even come near to 100% reliablility in their claims)
221 Heinz Bär (Some overclaims)
158 Hans-Joachim Marseille
103 Adolf Galland (Don Caldwell alleges that Galland deliberately overclaimed on at least one occaision)
102 Egon Mayer
101 Josef Priller (Kept meticulous record of combats apparently researched and largely verified by Johnny Johnson (38 )
92 Oskar Romm -On the basis of 5 Feb 44 mission in which he claimed 1 Soviet Yak & 5 Bostons -Yak shot down & 6/8 Bostons claimed by JG51 were shot down. On the basis of this single mission I will assign him a VERY PRELIMINARY claim reliability ESTIMATE of 79.2% and Estimate his Verified victories @ (79EVV)
35 Bruno Stolle
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