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Old 26th August 2007, 06:03
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Re: "History" and the History Channel

Leo thank you for your kind comments. I too am interested in the Luftwaffe but unfortunately I believe the scope of such a program is beyond that of Dog Fights. Perhaps someone in Germany would be willing to fund such an endeavor.
I thought you might be interested in the following:
Your comment about victories recalled a story from our Camarillo Air Show this year. In April 1945, Joe Peterburs, flying a Mustang, observed four or five Me-262s making a pass at the B-17s he was escorting. Diving down to gain enough airspeed to catch the 262s, he caught up with the leader, Walter Schuck, just as he downed his FOURTH B-17 on this pass. Opening fire, Joe got good hits on the port engine of the Me-262, which immediately dove down into some clouds. Joe could not catch him and thought nothing further about it. He did not know that a few moments later, Walter’s plane became uncontrollable, and Walter had to bail out. Thus, Joe had a victory that he knew nothing about.
Just as an aside, a couple minutes later, Joe and his wingman observed an airfield near Berlin loaded with aircraft and decided to strafe it. On the 2nd pass, Joe’s wingman was shot down; on the 3rd pass, Joe was shot down. He bailed out, was captured, became a POW, escaped, found a Russian tank unit, and fought with them for several days.
Aviation historians tried unsuccessfully for many years to identify the American Mustang pilot who shot down Schuck. Finally, someone realized there was an error identifying the towns, part of Peterburs’ story was revealed, and to make it short, it was deduced that it could only be Peterburs that shot down Schuck. The two are now the best of friends and in recounting their stories, it became clear that Peterburs was definitely the one who had shot down Schuck.
It was surprising that it took over 60 years to sort this one out so, Leo, I agree that it is hard to identify who shot whom down or even if someone was shot down in these various encounters. I admire your ability in English. I gave up on my German many years ago!
Cordially, Art Fiedler
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