[Many Souffan]

Hello Robert.

I have seen what you mean, But the white 5 of Joppien had also a big surrounding white line. Also in October , even, if the official insignia was without the big white line surrounding the insignia.

It is probable that Helmut Maul in white 12 was the wingman to Joppien.

The only thing I am sure that the official insignia was without the white surrounding the insignia and when Joppien replaced Douglas Pitcairn at the head of 1./ JG 51 the insignia changed with the add of the white line.