[Adriano Baumgartner]

Hello Chris, Andy and all.
Yes, CFIT is a civilian jargon used by Air Accident Investigators as well as by military ones. A couple of years ago, I did the Brazilian Air Ministry´s Accident Course ( in a Military base ) and Chris, you won´t believe, they do have some very fun videos from the R.A.F. about F.O.D. ( Foreign object damage ) that you must have seen..it must be from the 50´s...! There were Vampires and other erly jets...A lot of fun.. and they still do pass this video to each class in Brazil...I was fortunate because there are very few places available to civilian pilots each year. Most of the participants are Military pilots from South America´s Air Forces and, of course, from our own Air Force.
I do have read about a few PRU crashes on the returning leg, and I do remember clearly about a Spitfire pilot in 1941 or 1940 who died due to a CFIT accident. Of course, at that time the term was not used. If my memory do not fails me, another famous JG 26 pilot led his entire formation on a hill and all died in 1941, crashing their Fw 190 in France ( Oblt Schneider is that correct? ). Typical CFIT accident or ( in a more informal term: they flew into a hill flying visual through clouds...)
Thanks for both of you to have answered. I thought that due to the old age of the Air Commodore, he would not venture to fly a Mosquito or a Spitfire, so asked about an Anson crash or something similar. Do you know what was the cause of the accident? ( The engine packed, is that simple? ).
Thanks again for the quick answer and for sharing information.

PS: Chris, I saw today your post on the other Forum! Thanks a lot! Yes, I will buy your books in 2008. My other computer is coming back from "fixing" this week. So I will be able to send you what I promised, ok? Nice week and we will keep in touch...