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Old 3rd May 2005, 19:02
Six Nifty .50s Six Nifty .50s is offline
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Re: Erich Hartmann: 352 victories or... 80?

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Originally Posted by Boandlgramer
according to the RAF homepage:
on july 10th. not just 1 hurri was lost.
2 hurricanes are lost in combat, and 2 crashed while landing.
You're comparing apples and oranges.

My sources show that ten RAF fighters were 'lost' as a result of combat-- but nine of those planes managed to land safely and were listed as damaged but repairable -- not destroyed. One of them was damaged after it was misidentified and shot up by a Spitfire over Hawkinge.

Two other RAF fighters were lost, but not due to combat. Hurricane P3359 crashed in bad weather during a routine patrol and Spitfire N3051 was damaged while landing on a waterlogged runway.

No Spitfires were destroyed and the one Hurricane destroyed during combat was caused by a collision, which means that none of the 27 or more German pilot claims are legitimate. That may also be the case with the Blenheims downed, but I'll look into it.


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Originally Posted by Boandlgramer
its just a matter of the ratio of overclaims. 1 : 3 or 1: 4 for the VVS and the LW, even worse for the USAAF and the RAF.
Prove it.

Last edited by Six Nifty .50s; 3rd May 2005 at 19:40.