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Old 4th May 2005, 14:38
Christer Bergström Christer Bergström is offline
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Re: Erich Hartmann: 352 victories or... 80?

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When you write about Soviet combat losses is it combat losses (=recorded expressly as such) or combat losses + "did not return" ?
Krivosheyev's work on Soviet losses isn't that detailed when it deals with all aircraft losses in WW II.

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"Did not return" inevitably contains also noncombat losses.
Of course. Krivosheyev's figures probably contain that cathegory as well. Do you find it plausible to assume that 65% of all combat losses during the whole war in fact were accidents which occurred over enemy territory when there was no "friendly witness" to see the circumstances? I don't think so. That was my main point. I think you understood that.

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I really would like to know what famous authors do avoid this forum because of the reasons you site?
Well, suppose they would not like me to list their names here? Suppose I choose to respect their integrity? Suppose you make your own guesswork?

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I have always been too plain-language speaking, but would like to think that at least I am not scaring anyone away.
I think you understand that I was not talking about being frank, but that I was talking about desperate personal attacks on the verge of - and sometimes crossing the border of - slander, with the clear purpose of bringing down the personal reputation of a person as a person. It all stems from envy. I think it is obvious to everyone here that envy plays a certain role in several posts on TOCH, and that some of the most obsessed people here reveal their envy through such desperate posts.

Only a few minutes ago, I again received two e-mails from people who urged me to refrain from talking to people on TOCH because it is a free-fire zone for envious mudslingers, and they think I should not allow myself to become a target to such obsessed people. I think they are right.
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Last edited by Christer Bergström; 4th May 2005 at 14:39. Reason: Typo