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Old 5th May 2005, 09:47
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Re: Hartmann ....352 victories or 80?

Well, strictly, the Luftwaffe pilots had shared victories, but these panes were claimed individually as full kills. I know many examples against the US planes, when the same bombers were claimed some pilots (sometimes it was confirmed to for one as HSS, another as e.V. but as a full kill and even for a thid as a full kill also)

In some cases, that German and Hungarian fighters attacked the same US bomber Groups. In Hungarian side, for the Hungarian fighters, some bombers were confirmed as "collaboration with" German figters (on the same engagements, the Germans claimed these planes always as full kills to themselves and never mentioned the Hungarians - another example, which shows well, that the Hungarian claiming and confirming system was much more strict, than the German one)
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