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Old 25th April 2008, 19:06
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Re: The best USAAF fighter pilots have been the soviets

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Originally Posted by Franek Grabowski View Post
The fact there are some aircraft flying around does not constitute an air battle. It is my understanding that it was Kuban that was the major breakthrough in the air war on the Eastern Front, as well a major change in the concept of use of Soviet fighter aviation. This was nicely described by Ivanov, who wrote about Pokryshkin's briefing introducing speed, manouver, attack rule.
That show, you don't undestand the nature of tactical air war in the east where the air war was driven through ground battle.
It is long story, but from actual point of view, Kuban was nothing particular. It was some prove of concept for VVS high command but from the point of fighting and losses for both sides it can not be compared with Stalingrad or Kursk.

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A few dosens indeed. Find me those thousands of P-51s if in the eve of Normandy's D-Day there were only 6 USAAF Groups, 1 RAF and 1 PAF Wing flying the type. Still, they gave the edge, giving Luftwaffe no airspace to fly safely.
BTW Mark Gallay once wrote about Thunderbolt - it is no fighter. How about this?
Ok. IIRC on 12.05.44 8th air force was directed against german synthetic oil industry. It was some 1500 bombers and 1500 fighters(and additionally RAF figthers provide cover operation in France). And you would say, that the whole job was done by 300-400 P-51? Then we have new "wunderwaffe".
What Mark Gallay concern, I would say his opinion reflect the soviet fighter mentality but it is other story

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Kobry vstupayut v boj. Available on internet, I believe also in English. Romanenko clearly notes the impact of few Airacobras delivered to the Soviet Union in the early period.
I know the author from other forum, and after some discussion I preffer did not read his works.

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Now, please tell me what was the difference between Me 109F and Me 109G. This is key issue to understand the problem of Airacobra.
The G-2 was faster and has better climbing rate.
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And Yak-1/7s were not considered any particularly dangerous opponents.
Maybe your source? I know, Franek, all soviet types was complete harmless and the all german losses was pilots suicide or technically failure.

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What does have copying of technical features to performance of the aircraft? Although it is worth to note that Soviets copied western aircraft but it was not the other way.
Really? Copy? What type, beside after war Tu-4(B-29)?
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