[neil c]

Thanks Stig.

Those are also good points and I highly agree that pilots, and especially experienced fighter pilots, were well educated in aircraft recognition. Both Grislawski and Ihlefeld each had more than 100 kills by this time.

My father identified them as Me 109s a couple of minutes before he was spotted. And that was at a greater distance than when they were right on his tail and should have been able to easily identify his a/c type. Also, the air battle lasted about ten minutes. More time for a correct type I.D.

If the translation reveals no new information then I would suppose that both Grislawski and Ihlefeld had a shot at him and made the claim or it might just be a simple case of over reporting by one of them.

I am under the impression that both Grislawski and Ihlefeld were operating out of the same airfield, La Fere, that day. If that's true it is highly probable they were both on that mission.

Can anyone confirm that?

Neil